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Obama Can’t Stop LAUGHING for Trump Repeatedly Attacks He to Denfend his AdminisTration


CAMEROTA AND JOHN BERMAN. >>OKAY. FASTEN YOUR SEAT BELTS, EVERYONE. IT’S GOING TO BE A BUMPY, RHETORICAL RIDE THIS MORNING.>>THAT’S JUST THURSDAY. >>THAT’S EXACTLY RIGHT. >>THAT’S JUST THURSDAY. >>WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT THE LIST OF THINGS THAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY, I WAS THINKING, OR YOU CAN JUST CALL IT THURSDAY. WELCOME TO OUR VIEWERS IN THE UNITED STATES. AROUND THE WORLD, THIS IS “NEW DAY.” IT IS THURSDAY. IT’S AUGUST 22nd, 6:00 HERE IN NEW YORK. WE BEGIN WITH SOMETHING YOU PROBABLY NEVER THOUGHT YOU’D HEAR THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SAY.>>I AM THE CHOSEN ONE.>>YES. THAT WAS THE PRESIDENT DECLARING HIMSELF THE CHOSEN ONE FOR HIS EFFORT TO TAKE ON CHINA ON TRADE. NOW, THAT WAS RIGHT AFTER HE BASKED IN THE PRAISE OF A RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY THEORIST WHO CALLS HIM THE KING OF ISRAEL. PRESIDENT TRUMP ALSO, AGAIN, QUESTIONED THE LOYALTY OF AMERICAN JEWS REPEATING THE SAME ANTI-SEMITIC TROPE. BUT WAIT THERE’S MORE.>>HE ALSO FLATOUT CONTRADICTED COMMENTS HE MADE THE DAY BEFORE ON TAXES AND GUNS. SO TO WHAT DO WE OWE THIS LEADERSHIP COCKTAIL OF CONFUSING AND CONTRADICTORY? “THE NEW YORK TIMES” REPORTING THIS MORNING, SOME FORMER TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS IN RECENT DAYS SAID THEY WERE INCREASINGLY WORRIED ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S BEHAVIOR SUGGESTING IT SEMIS FROM RISING PRESSURE ON MR. TRUMP AS THE ECONOMY SEEMS MORE WORRISOME AND NEXT YEAR’S ELECTION APPROACHES. AND THERE ARE NEW TROUBLING SIGNS FOR THE U.S. ECONOMY THIS MORNING. THE LABOR DEPARTMENT REPORTS THERE WERE HALF A MILLION JOBS FEWER THAN PREVIOUSLY REPORTED. THERE WAS ANOTHER YIELD CURVE INVERSION FUELING RECESSION FEARS AND THE BUDGET DEFICIT IS ON PATH TO SURPASS $1 TRILLION. THERE IS A LOT GOING ON THIS MORNING. LET’S BEGIN OUR COVERAGE WITH JOE JOHNS WHO IS LIVE AT THE WHITE HOUSE. JOE?>>WELL, JOHN, YOU’RE RIGHT. CONGRESS IS STILL ON ITS LONG AUGUST RECESS, BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, THE PRESIDENT IS KEEPING VERY BUSY AT THAT MEDIA AVAILABILITY OUT HERE AT THE WHITE HOUSE JUST YESTERDAY. HE TALK ED ABOUT A LOT OF THING. SOME OF THE THINGS HE SAID WERE CONTRADICTORY AND CONFUSES. BUT WHEN HE GOT TO THAT FUND RAISER IN KENTUCKY, TWO SOURCES TOLD US HE DIDN’T TALK ABOUT GUNS AT ALL. PRESIDENT TRUMP SEIZING THE SPOTLIGHT SENDING MIXED MESSAGES AND CONTRADICTING HIMSELF ON ISSUES LIKE GUN LEGISLATION.>>I HAVE AN APPETITE FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS. WE’LL BE DOING BACKGROUND CHECKS.>>Reporter: YET HE HAD A LONG CONVERSATION WITH NRA LEADERSHIP THE DAY BEFORE AND IS STANDING BY GUN LOBBYISTS.>>THE GUN DOESN’T PULL THE TRIGGER. THE PERSON DOES. AND WE HAVE GREAT MENTAL ILLNESS.>>Reporter: THE PRESIDENT ALSO STOKING OUTRAGE BY REPEATING A ANTI-SEMITIC TROPE. CLAIMING THIS ABOUT PREVIOUS CRITICISM.>>IT’S ONLY ANTI-SEMITIC IN YOUR HEAD.>>Reporter: PRESIDENT TRUMP ALSO TWEETING OUT A COMMENT FROM A CONSERVATIVE CONSPIRACY THEORIST WRITING, THANK YOU TO WAYNE ALLEN ROOT FOR THE NICE WORDS. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS THE GREATEST PRESIDENT FOR JEWS AND HIN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. LIKE HE’S THE KING OF ISRAEL. THEY LOVE HIM LIKE HE’S THE SECOND COMING OF GOD. THE PRESIDENT EVEN GOING AS FAR AS USING BIBLICAL TERMS TO DESCRIBE HIMSELF.>>I AM THE CHOSEN ONE. SOMEBODY HAD TO DO IT, SO I’M TAKING ON CHINA. I’M TAKING ON CHINA ON TRADE. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? WE’RE WINNING.>>Reporter: AND TAKING AIM ONCE AGAIN AT HIS PREDECESSOR.>>SO RUSSIA OUTSMARTED PRESIDENT OBAMA. PRESIDENT OBAMA AND OTHERS BROUGHT THE FAMILIES APART. BUT I’M THE ONE THAT KEPT THE FAMILIES TOGETHER.>>Reporter: BUT THAT’S JUST NOT TRUE. SEPARATIONS WERE RARE UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS ONLY INTENSIFIED FAMILY SEPARATIONS AT THE BORDER. ALSO ON IMMIGRATION, THE PRESIDENT RAMPED UP HIS RHETORIC ON CONSTITUTIONALLY GUARANTEED BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP.>>YOU WALK OVER THE BORDER, HAVE A BABY, CONGRATULATIONS THE BABY IS NOW A U.S. CITIZEN. WE ARE LOOKING AT BIRTH RRIGHT CITIZENSHIP VERY CLOSELY. IT’S RIDICULOUS.>>Reporter: THE THOUGHT OF A RECESSION?>>WE HAVE A STRONG ECONOMY.>>Reporter: BUT THAT’S NOT WHAT TRUMP SAID TUESDAY.>>PAYROLL TAX IS SOMETHING WE THINK ABOUT AND A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT.>>Reporter: AND THE PRESIDENT IS USING A FAMILIAR INSULT TO ATTACK DENMARK’S PRIME MINISTER AFTER SHE DISMISSED HIS IDEA OF BUYING GREENLAND.>>I THOUGHT THAT THE PRIME MINISTER’S STATEMENT THAT IT WAS ABSURD. IT WAS AN ABSURD IDEA, IT WAS NASTY PIP THOUGHT IT WAS AN INAPPROPRIATE STATEMENT. ALL SHE HAD TO DO WAS SAY NO, WE WOULDN’T BE INTERESTED.>>Reporter: NOW, THE DANISH PRIME MINISTER IS ONLY THE LATEST IN A GROWING GROUP OF WOMEN LEADERS THE PRESIDENT HAS REFERRED TO AS NASTY. THAT GROUP INCLUDES HILLARY CLINTON, NANCY PELOSI, ELIZABETH WARREN, AND KAMALA HARRIS. ALISYN?>>OKAY, JOE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR TRYING TO SUM ALL OF THAT UP IN TWO MINUTES. LET’S BRING IN OUR EXPERTS MARGARET TALEV, JOHN AVALON, AND FRANK BRUNI. JOHN, AT THIS POINT, DON’T YOU THINK THE PRESIDENT IS JUST MESSING WITH PEOPLE NOW TO SAY I’M THE CHOSEN ONE? LATER IN THE DAY HE SAID HE WANTED TO AWARD HIMSELF THE MEDAL OF HONOR. DON’T YOU THINK AT THIS POINT HE LIKES TO BE PROVOCATIVE. ISN’T HE JUST TRYING TO MAKE PEOPLE’S BLOOD BOIL AT THIS POINT?>>YOU KNOW, THAT’S ONE EXPLANATION. ONE EXPLANATION IS THIS IS ALL AN ORNATE TROLL AND THE PRESIDENT IS IN CONTROL TWEAKING PEOPLE. THE OTHER IS HE’S BECOMING MORE UNHINGED. WE’VE HAD COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD THAT HAVE HAD MAD KINGS BEFORE. WE’RE NOT ONE OF THEM. BUT WHAT WE’RE WATCHING IF YOU LOOK AT ANY OF THE QUOTES FROM YESTERDAY, I’M THE CHOSEN ONE, RETWEETING SOMEBODY SAYING HE IS THE MESSIAH TALKING ABOUT THE KING OF ISRAEL AND THE SECOND COMING OF GOD, SAYING HE THOUGHT ABOUT AWARDING HIMSELF THE MEDAL OF HONOR. THIS IS UNHINGED BEHAVIOR. YOU KNOW, TOM FRIEDMAN WAS ON ANDERSON COOPER LAST NIGHT AND SAID IF THIS WAS THE PRESIDENT OF ANY COMPANY, THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS WOULD HAVE HIM REMOVED. THIS IS NOT TIGHTLY WRAPPED BEHAVIOR. IT’S TROUBLING BEHAVIOR. IT SEEMS TO INDICATE THAT HE IS UNTETHERING WITH REALITY MORE AND MORE.>>YOU DON’T THINK TO HIM, THIS IS JUST A BIG SHOW?>>THE SKETCH WHERE HE’S IN CONTROL BUT PLAYING THE OLD D DODDY DUDE IN REALITY.>>HE COMES OFF AS ERRATIC AND THE IMPACT IS ESSENTIALLY THE SAME.>>I AGREE WITH YOU.>>ME, NOT ALISYN.>>I ALWAYS AGREE WITH BOTH OF YOU. I’M GOING TO ADD THE TWO OF YOU TOGETHER.>>WAY TO THREAD THE NEEDLE.>>REMEMBER THE PRESIDENCY DOES STRANGE THINGS TO PEOPLE WITH NORMAL PSYCHOLOGIES. YOU’RE UNDER A MICROSCOPE, ALL THESE PEOPLE INFLATING YOUR EGO. YOU HAVE ENORMOUS PRESSURE ON YOU. SO IF YOU GO INTO THE PRESIDENCY WITH A NORMAL PSYCHOLOGY, IT CAN DO STRANGE THINGS TO YOU. IF YOU GO INTO THE PRESIDENCY AS DONALD TRUMP, THE END POINT IS NOT PRETTY.>>YOU CAN’T DIVORCE THIS FROM THE TIMING CONTEXT OF IT WHICH IS IN A COUPLE DAYS THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO BE BACK IN FRANCE AT THE G7 THAT EVERY YEAR TRIES TO FIGURE OUT WHETHER IT’S LIKE NATO OF G7 MEETING, HOW TO HAVE THE UPPER HAND, HOW TO WALK IN WITH THE NARRATIVE, HOW TO SET THE STAGE ON HIS TERMS. VERY OFTEN BY SHOCKING SENSIBILITIES OF EUROPEAN LEADERS HE’S GOING TO BE WITH. YOU CAN ARGUE THE MERITS OF THIS, IS THIS A GOOD STRATEGY? WHAT IS THE END GOAL OF THE STRATEGY? HE DOES IT EVERY TIME AND HE’S DOING IT AGAIN. THIS IS ALSO TAKING US AWAY FROM THE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT’S ACTUALLY HAPPENING WITH THE ECONOMY.>>I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR. THE IDEA THAT MAYBE HE’S JUST TROLLING US, I REALLY DO THINK THAT’S A PROBLEMATIC THEORY TO PUT OUT WITH ALL OF THIS RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT HAPPENED JUST YESTERDAY, CONTRADICTING HIMSELF ON NOT MINOR ISSUES THAT AREN’T MINOR TO AMERICANS. WE’RE TALKING ABOUT TAXES AND GUN POLICY, POLICY AGAINST GUN VIOLENCE. HE IS CONFUSING EVERYBODY ABOUT WHERE HE STANDS ON THAT.>>I’M NOT SAYING IT DOESN’T HAVE AN UNSETTLING EFFECT. DON’T GET ME WRONG.>>BUT WAIT, THERE’S MORE. JUST BEING A LITTLE ANTI. SEMITIC FOR THE SECOND DAY IN A ROW AND MAKING CRYSTAL CLEAR THAT’S WHERE YOU STAND ON SOMETHING, THAT’S NOT TROLLING ANYBODY. THAT’S JUST BEING ANTI-SEMITIC. SO WHEN YOU LOOK TAT THIS, THE NET EFFECT OF ALL OF IT I THINK MUDDLES THINGS INCLUDING THE MARKETS.>>OH, PLEASE. ABSOLUTELY. THERE’S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HIS MOTIVATION AND WHAT’S CAUSING IT AND THE NET EFFECT. AND THE NET EFFECT IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE ALL LIVING WITH. AND INCLUDING THE MARKETS. LET ME JUST PUT UP WITH ONE SECOND. THERE ARE ALL THESE TROUBLING SIGNS FOR THE ECONOMY THAT HE’S NOT TALKING ABOUT, HE’S SAYING NOTHING TO SEE HERE. SO THE LABOR DEPARTMENT RELEASED — HAD TO REVISE DOWNWARD THE BIGGEST REVISION DOWNWARD IN A DECADE I THINK. MAYBE MORE. BY HALF A MILLION JOBS. ANOTHER YIELD CURVE INVERSION WHICH PEOPLE SAY IS THE FLASHING RED WARNING SIGN OF A COMING RECESSION. BUDGET DEFICIT IS ABOUT TO SURPASS $1 TRILLION. THEN WE’LL GET TO GUNS IN A SECOND.>>YEAH, LOOK. THIS IS THE POINT THAT BENEATH ALL THE UNHINGED RHETORIC, THERE ARE A LOT OF REAL HARD DATA THINGS GOING SOUTH. AGAIN, I DON’T THINK YOU NEED TO CHOOSE. THIS IS NOT AN ORNATE ATTEMPT TO MOVE US INTO NEGOTIATIONS. THIS IS A PATTERN OF STATEMENTS MADE IN ONE DAY. ONE OF WHICH WOULD DOMINATE ANY NEWS CYCLE. HE CALLED HIMSELF THE CHOSEN ONE AND MUSED ABOUT WHETHER HE COULD AWARD HIMSELF THE MEDAL OF HONOR. THIS IS STUFF OUT OF A DARK SATIRE. EVERYONE WHO IS SUPPORTING HIM IS GOING TO OWN IT GOING FORWARD. IMAGINE A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT SAYING ANY ONE OF THOSE THINGS ONCE, WEEKS OF CONCERNED TROLLING COVERAGE ON A COMPETING NETWORK.>>LET’S BE POSITIVE. WE COULD THANK HIM FOR THE HUMILITY. HE USED TO TALK ABOUT GETTING THE NOBEL. MAYBE HE’S COMING BACK DOWN TO REALITY.>>THOSE NUMBERS ARE A PROBLEM ON A COUPLE OF LEVELS, RIGHT? BECAUSE THEY EXIST TO THE SITUATION WITH LOW UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES, RIGHT? IF THE INTEREST RATES CHANGE, UNEMPLOYMENT FIGURES CHANGE, THAT ESCALATES THE PROBLEM A LOT OF THESE ARE KIND OF A PEAK UNDER THE RUG AT SOME OF THE LONGER TERM CONSEQUENCES OF THE POLICIES THAT HAVE JUICED THE ECONOMY UP UNTIL NOW.>>ALL OF THIS DARK HUMOR TO YOUR POINT IS I THINK MASKING OR COMPETING WITH SOMETHING REALLY DARK HAPPENING. AND THAT IS THIS SPATE OF MASS SHOOTINGS WE’VE HAD, AND A SPATE OF FOILED MASS SHOOTINGS. IN THE PAST WEEK, POLICE HAVE BEEN WORKING OVERTIME, THANK GOD, AROUND THE COUNTRY AND HAVE STOPPED ALL OF THESE YOUNG MEN WHO WANT TO DO MASS SHOOTINGS. BECAUSE IT TURNS OUT THAT IT IS CONTAGIOUS. THERE ARE COPYCATS. YOU SEE THIS AND IT FEELS LIKE THE ANSWER. AND THERE’S THIS SPIKE IN WHITE SUPREMACY. ALL OF THIS IS LEADING TO AN UNSETTLED FEELING AMONG PEOPLE WHO ARE NORMALLY SANE AND PEOPLE WHO ARE UNHINGED.>>YOU HAVE THE UNITED STATES ACTING AS COMFORTER IN CHIEF AND USING THE MORAL AUTHORITY OF THE OFFICE TO GROUND THE CONVERSATION. NOT ONLY ARE THEY SHOOTING RHETORIC THE PRESIDENT HAS USED. BUT YESTERDAY HE FLIP-FLOPPED FROM I’M LOSING TRACK ON BACKGROUND CHECKS. THAT’S SUBSTANTIVE. THAT’S POLICY. MAYBE HE DOESN’T REMEMBER, MAYBE HE DOESN’T CARE. BUT THAT’S A REAL PROBLEM IN THE FACE OF A RISING BODY COUNT.>>AND AGAIN, AS COMFORTER IN CHIEF, ONE OF THE THINGS HE’S SUPPOSED TO DO IS HELP SOOTHE, I THINK, THE FRAYED NERVE AND HURT IN THESE PLACES. I WANT YOU TO LISTEN TO HOW HE TALKED ABOUT HIS VISIT YESTERDAY TO THE HOSPITALS IN DAYTON AND OHIO.>>WHEN I WENT TO EL PASO AND I WENT INTO THOSE HOSPITALS, ME AS A REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COUNTRY BUT FOR ME AND MY LOVE FOR THEM WAS THESE PEOPLE ARE UNPARALLELED. NOT ONLY DID THEY MEET WITH ME, THEY WERE POURING OUT OF THE ROOMS. THE DOCTORS WERE COMING OUT OF THE OPERATING ROOMS.>>ME, ME, ME, ME, ME.>>THIS IS THE THING HE’S MOST CONSISTENT ON. WHEN HE WAS IN EL PASO, THEY TALKED TO HIM ABOUT HOW GREAT HIS CROWDS HAD BEEN PREVIOUSLY AND HOW BAD BETO’S WERE.>>AND I JUST WANT TO ADD THAT IN ALL OF THESE EXAMPLES. LOOK, I’M NOT GOING INTO THE MENTAL STATE. I DON’T EVEN THINK YOU HAVE TO TOUCH THAT TO TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT OF THE ERRATIC BEHAVIOR HERE. AND YOU START TO LOOK AND I DON’T WANT TO PUT TOO MUCH WEIGHT IN ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI, IN BILL WALSH, IN BILL WELD, IN MARK SANFORD, BUT THERE ARE REPUBLICANS NOW COMING FORWARD SAYING THIS BEHAVIOR IS ENOUGH FOR US TO STEP BACK. YOU WERE GRIMACING SAYING NO.>>I’M JUST GRIMACING BECAUSE I THINK ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI WILL SAY WHATEVER GETS HIM AIR TIME. BUT YES. LET’S GO BACK TO THE DENMARK GREENLAND THING. WE ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK OF THE WORLD. WE USED TO BE THE LIGHT OF THE WORLD. WE DON’T BEHAVE AS A SERIOUS NATION UNDER HIM.>>I THINK WHAT EUROPEAN LEADERS HAVE SOUGHT SO FAR TO SEPARATE THEIR LONG-TERM OPPRESSIONS OF THE UNITED STATES FROM THEIR KIND OF IMPRESSIONS OF DEALING WITH THIS PRESIDENT. AND THE UPCOMING ELECTION HAS ALWAYS BEEN A PIVOT POINT FOR MANY OF THOSE EUROPEAN COUNTRIES. KIND OF LIKE, OKAY, WE’LL GIVE YOU THESE FOUR YEARS BUT IF WE GIVE YOU EIGHT, WE’LL HAVE TO RECONSIDER.>>WE EVEN HEARD BORIS JOHNSON YSTERDAY KIND OF TRYING TO FIND THAT SAFE DISTANCE BETWEEN HIMSELF AND PRESIDENT TRUMP WHEN IT COMES TO DO YOU LET RUSSIA BACK IN.>>WHEN BORIS JOHNSON SAYS THINGS ARE GETTING NUTTY, YOU REALLY HAVE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO CONSIDER THAT. >>THERE YOU GO.>>OKAY. ON THAT NOTE.>>>BREAKING OVERNIGHT, 2020 SPRAWLING DEMOCRATIC FIELD JUST GOT A BIT SMALLER. JAY INSLEE HAS DROPPED OUT OF THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE. HE HAD NOT YET QUALIFIED FOR SEPTEMBER’S DEBATE. HE DID MAKE CONFRONT CLIMATE CHANGE THE CENTER PIECE OF HIS CAMPAIGN. A SOURCE NOW SAYS HE’S SET TO ANNOUNCE TODAY THAT HE WILL SEEK A THIRD TERM AS GOVERNOR OF WASHINGTON.>>>ALL RIGHT. PRESIDENT OBAMA HAS NOT BEEN IN OFFICE FOR TWO AND A HALF YEARS AS YOU MIGHT KNOW. BUT PRESIDENT TRUMP DOESN’T ALWAYS THINK ABOUT THAT TIMELINE. HE TALKS A LOT ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA. SO THERE’S MORE O>>>ALL RIGHT. WE’RE STILL TRYING TO DIGEST EVERYTHING PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID YESTERDAY. SO MUCH OF IT WAS CONTRADICTORY AND CONFUSING. BUT THERE WAS ONE THING THAT HE WAS CRYSTAL CLEAR ON. THAT JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING THAT HE THINKS HAS GONE WRONG, EVEN THINGS — >>IN HIS BEST THREE AND A HALF YEARS.>>IT’S ALL BARACK OBAMA’S FAULT. LISTEN.>>SO RUSSIA OUTSMARTED PRESIDENT OBAMA. IT WAS PRESIDENT OBAMA WHO BUILT THOSE CAGES. SO HE HAD SEPARATION. I’M THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER. I’M NOT LOOKING AT A TAX CUT NOW. WE HAVE A STRONG ECONOMY. CERTAINLY A PAYROLL TAX CUT. PRESIDENT OBAMA DID THAT IN ORDER TO ARTIFICIALLY JACK UP THE ECONOMY. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAD ZERO INTEREST RATES. I DON’T HAVE ZERO INTEREST RATES. I HAVE REAL INTEREST RATES.>>A TON OF THAT JUST NOT TRUE.>>YOU CAN’T JUST SAY SOMETHING AND HOPE EVERYBODY FORGETS AND HOPE THE VIDEOTAPE DOESN’T EXIST. WE REMEMBER CHILD SEPARATION. IT HAPPENED RECENTLY. WE CAN’T JUST WISH IT AWAY.>>BACK NOW WITH US, OUR PANEL. BUT TO THE LARGER POINT HERE WHICH IS THIS OBSESSION WITH SOMEBODY WHO HASN’T MADE A DECISION FROM THE OVAL OFFICE IN TWO AND A HALF YEARS, IT GIVES YOU A WINDOW.>>WELL, SURE. BUT ALSO, IN TRUMP’S DEFENSE ALTHOUGH THAT’S A WEIRD PHRASE, EVERY PRESIDENT IS VERY CONSCIOUS OF HIS PREDECESSOR BECAUSE THAT’S THE OBVIOUS AND NEAR YARDSTICK. I THINK WE’RE GOING TO HEAR MORE AND MORE FROM TRUMP ABOUT OBAMA THIS, OBAMA THAT AS 2020 APPROACHES. BECAUSE PRESIDENT TRUMP IS WORRIED ABOVE ALL HE WILL BE MORTIFIED BY NOT GETTING A SECOND TERM. AND WHAT DID HIS PREDECESSOR DO? GOT TWO TERMS. I THINK THE SPECTER OF OBAMA HANGS OVER HIM MORE HEAVILY THAN EVER.>>THERE’S SOMETHING VISIBLE — VISCERAL — >>THEY’RE BOTH RIGHT.>>– FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP ABOUT THE OBAMA LEGACY. I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP DOES FEEL THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA IS TROLLING HIM FROM BEYOND THE PRESIDENCY EVEN THOUGH PRESIDENT OBAMA A LARGELY SORT OF STAYED OUT OF IT.>>SO MANY OF PRESIDENT OBAMA’S SUPPORTERS WISH HE WERE MORE VOCAL.>>THAT’S TRUE. PRESIDENT TRUMP IF YOU GO BACK TO 2017 HAS ALMOST SYSTEMATICALLY GONE THROUGH TO COUNTERCHECK EVERY MAJOR POLICY INITIATIVE THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA TRIED TO ROLL OUT. LIKE, PRESIDENT TRUMP THINKS ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA A LOT. LIKE, A LOT, LIKE ALL THE TIME. BUT ALSO IF FORMER VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN WOULD RUN, PRESIDENT TRUMP WOULD LIKE TO FIND PEOPLE TO BLAME AND ATTACH THE SEEDS OF IT TO THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION. SO THERE ARE STRATEGIC REASONS. THERE’S ALSO JUST AN EMOTIONAL — >>LET’S ROOT THIS IN REALITY. WHILE THE PRESIDENT DOESN’T WANT TO SAY LOOK AT WHAT YOU SEE, LISTEN TO WHAT I SAY, THE OBSESSION WITH OBAMA 20 TIMES IN YESTERDAY’S PRESSER DOESN’T FIT THE FACTS. WE ARE IN THE LONGEST ECONOMIC EXPANSION IN OUR HISTORY. THREE QUARTERS OF WHICH STARTED UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA. ONE QUARTER OF WHICH DONALD TRUMP HAS ACCELERATED. GREAT. YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT CRIMEA? DID THAT HAPPEN UNDER THE ADMINISTRATION? YES. BUT IT’S PRESIDENT TRUMP WHO WANTS TO REVERSE THOSE SANCTIONS AND THE PUNITIVE MEASURES TAKEN AFTER THE INVASION OF CRIMEA. THE FAMILY SEPARATIONS. I’M THE ONE WHO SEPARATED THEM. WHAT KIND OF BIZARRE WORLD — HE’S THE ONE THAT SEPARATED THEM AS A MATTER OF POLICY. WE KNOW THAT TO BE TRUE. SO ALL THESE THINGS ARE NOT ROOTED IN REALITY. AND YET HE KEEPS BEATING THAT DRUM. AND SO, UNFORTUNATELY, IT’S OUR JOB AGAIN TO SAY STOP IT, MR. PRESIDENT.>>DID A GREAT FACT CHECK ON YESTERDAY’S LIVE SHOW AT THE DEPARTURE. AND TOTALLY WORTH READING. LIKE, I THINK IT’S EITHER 7 OR 11 THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW — >>ELEVEN.>>BUT IT’S A POLITICALLY CONVENIENT DRUM. YOU MADE THE GREAT POINT IF HE RUNS AGAINST JOE BIDEN HE’S GOING TO RUN AGAINST THE OBAMA LEGACY. STARTING TO TARNISH THAT NOW IS LIKE GETTING WORK DONE AHEAD OF TIME. BUT IT’S ALSO POLITICALLY CONVENIENT BECAUSE HIS BASE HATED PRESIDENT OBAMA.>>CAN I ASK ONE LAST POINT OF WHAT WE’VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT OVERALL? DO YOU THINK THAT THE PRESSURE OF THE ECONOMY AND THE PRESSURE OF ALL OF THIS IS WEIGHING ON HIM?>>100%. BECAUSE HOW MANY TIMES IN THESE FIRST TWO AND A HALF YEARS HAS HE TAKEN CREDIT FOR THE ECONOMY? AND HOW CAN YOU IMPEACH SOMEONE WHO’S PRESIDING OVER THIS ECONOMY? THE ECONOMY IS NOT LOOKING SO GREAT AND I THINK UNHINGED OR NOT, HE UNDERSTANDS THAT HIS ELECTION HINGES MORE ON WHAT THE ECONOMY LOOKS LIKE IN THE SIX MONTHS BEFORE NOVEMBER 2020 THAN ANY OTHER FACTOR.>>LET’S TALK ABOUT 2020. THE DEMOCRATIC FIELD HAS GOTTEN JUST A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THIS MORNING. WASHINGTON STATE GOVERNOR JAY INSLEE IS OUT. HIS SINGLE ISSUE, HIS MAIN ISSUE WAS CLIMATE CHANGE. SOMEBODY ELSE WILL HAVE TO PICK UP THAT MANTEL.>>THOSE ARE BAD SIGNS FOR THE DEMOCRATIC FIELD. I THINK IT’S UNDERSTANDABLE TO WANT TO KIND OF CULL THE HERD BECAUSE 24 IS A LOT. BUT THEY KEEP LOSING GOVERNORS AND I THINK THAT’S ACTUALLY A BAD THING FOR THE NATIONAL DEBATE AT THIS STAGE.>>BUT THESE GOVERNORS, YOU KNOW, 2% — IN WHAT OTHER UNIVERSE IS 2% A HUGE SUCCESS? THEY’RE NOT EVEN AT 1%. IF THEY WERE AT 2% IN THE POLLS, THEY WOULD BE IN THE DEBATE.>>I UNDERSTAND. BUT THE PERCENTAGE NUMBER BECOMES A HIGHER HURDLE. IT SOUNDS LIKE THE LOWEST THING IN THE WORLD. BUT IT TAKES A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET TRACTION IN THIS CYCLE UNLESS YOU COME IN AS A STAR. AND WE GOT A LOT OF FOLKS WHO ARE SENATORS THAT HAVE BEEN IN THE PUBLIC EYE FOR A LONG TIME. WE TEND TO IGNORE WESTERN GOVERNORS, UNFORTUNATELY.>>IM A JUST GOING TO DISAGREE WITH YOUR POLICE WORK THERE. PETE BUTTIGIEG WASN’T A STAR. HE CAME IN WITH A NAME NO ONE COULD PRONOUNCE.>>BUT HIS YOUTH, SEXUAL ORIENTATION AND ALL OF THAT. GOVERNORS ARE THE PEOPLE WE CREDIT WITH DOING THINGS, WITH ADMINISTERING THINGS. WE LIVE IN A CELEBRITY CLIMATE WHERE IF YOU’RE A SENATOR DURING A COMMITTEE HEARING OR A GOVERNOR OF A SMALL INDIANA HEARING BUT YOU HAVE A GREAT PERSONAL STORY AND DISTINGUISHING CHARACTERISTICS, THAT MATTERS MORE IN A FIELD THIS BIG IN A CELEBRITY CULTURE.>>WELL SAID. LET’S MOVE ONTO ANOTHER CANDIDATE. NEW YORK CITY MAYOR BILL de BLASIO WHO HAD THIS EVENT, VIA LIVE STREAM OR SATELLITE, WHATEVER. IN IOWA YESTERDAY. AND APPARENTLY I DON’T KNOW IF HE INHALED SOME HELIUM BEFORE THIS EVENT OR WHAT. BUT HERE IS THE MOMENT OF HIS LIVE STREAM EVENT.>>I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THE FIGHT EVERY DAY. TWO WEEKS PAID VACATION EVERY YEAR. THAT’S THE KIND OF THING THAT CHA TRANSFORMS PEOPLE’S LIVES.>>THAT WAS A TECHNICAL GLITCH. THE AUDIO GUY APOLOGIZED TO THE MAYOR AFTERWARDS. THE MAYOR DID NOT KNOW HE WAS COMING ACROSS AS ALVIN THE CHIPMUNK.>>IT’S EVEN BETTER WHEN IT’S TOTALLY STRAIGHT FACED. SOMETIMES YOU TAKE YOUR OPPORTUNITY. RIGHT? YOU’RE TRYING TO BREAK THROUGH, GET ON THE AIR. HERE’S YOUR MOMENT. GOOD TIME TO TALK ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE.>>BUT REALLY, IT’S FUNNY BECAUSE SUCH A TALL MAN AND SUCH A SMALL VOICE.>>>ALL RIGHT. BREAKING THIS MORNING, A BIG POLITICAL DEVELOPMENT THAT COULD IMPACT THE BALANCE OF POWER IN THE SENATE. COLORADO’S FORMER GOVERNOR AND FORMER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE JOHN HICKENLOOPER HAS ANNOUNCED HE WILL CHALLENGE REPUBLICAN CORY GARDNER FOR HIS SEAT. HICKENLOOPER JUST DROPPED HIS BID FOR PRESIDENT LAST WEEK AND COLORADO IS AMONG A HANDFUL OF KEY SENATE RACES THAT WILL DETERMINE WHETHER REPUBLICANS WILL CONTAIN CONTROL OF THE SENATE NEXT YEAR. HERE TO BREAK THESE RACES DOWN FOR US, RON BROWNSTEIN. WE’LL GET TO HICKENLOOPER IN THIS BREAKING NEWS IN THE CONTEXT OF THIS STORY IN A SECOND. BUT FIRST OF ALL, WE TALK ABOUT WHO HAS MORE AT STAKE HERE. THE REPUBLICANS ARE JUST DEFENDING MORE TERRAIN THIS YEAR, CORRECT?>>THEY ARE. YOU KNOW, THE COMMON THREAD THAT LINKS THESE INDIVIDUAL RACES AS WE TALK ABOUT THEM IS IT’S BECOMING MUCH HARDER FOR EITHER PARTY TO WIN THE SENATE RACES IN STATES THAT USUALLY VOTE THE OTHER WAY FOR PRESIDENT. IT IS NOW ROUTINE FOR 90% OF VOTERS TO SAY THEY APPROVE OF THE PRESIDENT IN THE SENATE RACE. 90% HAVE DISAPPROVED TO VOTE FOR THE OTHER PARTIES. AS YOU MAY KNOW FOR THE FIRST TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY, EVERY SENATE RACE WENT THE SAME WAY AS THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE IN THAT STATE. AND SO THAT IS KIND OF A LOOMING FACTOR OVER MANY OF THESE CONTESTS. THERE MAY BE A FEW EXCEPTIONS WHERE A CANDIDATE CAN WIN IF THEIR SIDE DOESN’T CARRY THE STATE PRESIDENTIALLY. I THINK THE VAST MAJORITY ARE GOING TO FALL THE SAME WAY AS THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION IN THAT STATE.>>SO RON, LET’S TALK ABOUT FOUR OF THE SENATE RACES TO WATCH THAT YOU’RE KEEPING YOUR EYES ON. COLORADO, ARIZONA, MAINE, AND ALABAMA. SO WHAT ARE YOU SEEING?>>RIGHT. SO THE FIRST THREE, COLORADO, ARIZONA, AND MAINE IN THAT ORDER ARE THE DEMOCRATS’ BEST CHANCES TO PICK UP SEATS. ESPECIALLY WITH HICKENLOOPER IN THE RACE. I THINK CORY GARDNER IS THE MOST ENDANGERED REPUBLICAN INCUMBENT IN AN ANALOGY THAT JOHN WOULD APPRECIATE, I THINK HIS CHANCES OF RE-ELECTION ARE ABOUT THE SAME NOW AS THE RED SOX CHANCES OF REPEATING AS WORLD CHAMPIONS. VERY TOUGH. TRUMP IS AT 40% CONSISTENTLY IN THE STATE. HARD TO — AS IS GARDNER. THEN YOU GO DOWN TO ARIZONA WHERE YOU HAVE MARTHA McSALLY WHO WAS APPOINTED TO FILL OUT THE JOHN McCAIN SEAT AND IS TRAILING AGAIN IN RECENT POLLING AGAINST MARK KELLY, THE DEMOCRAT, WITH AGAIN TRUMP UNDER WATER IN HIS APPROVAL IN THE STATE. AND THEN MAINE WHERE SUSAN COLLINS HAS BEEN ABLE TO ESTABLISH HERSELF TRADITIONALLY AS AN INDEPENDENT BRAND, MUCH HARDER NOW IN THIS POLARIZED ERA. DEMOCRATS HAVE RECRUITED A VERY STRONG CHALLENGER, THE SPEAKER OF THE STATE HOUSE. IT’S GOING TO BE TOUGHER FOR HER TO WIN THAN IN THE PAST. OF COURSE THE ONE DEMOCRATIC STATE THAT IS THE MOST ENGAGED IS DOUG JONES IN ALABAMA. TRUMP WILL PROBABLY WIN BY A BIG MARGIN. UNLESS HE GETS ROY MOORE AGAIN WHO IS IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY, IT’S GOING TO BE TOUGH.>>WHICH ISN’T IMPOSSIBLE, BY THE WAY.>>WHICH IS NOT IMPOSSIBLE.>>SO THE MATH THERE IS THIS. IF THE DEMOCRATS PICK UP THREE SEATS AND THE WHITE HOUSE, GIVE THEM A 50/50 SPLIT PLUS THE VICE PRESIDENT. THEY WOULD CONTROL THE SENATE. IF THEY WON ALL THOSE THREE RACES YOU JUST TALKED ABOUT BUT LOST IN ALABAMA AND TOOK THE WHITE HOUSE, THEY WOULD NEED TO WIN ONE MORE. WHICH OF THE STATES COULD YOU SEE THE POSSIBILITIES IN?>>THAT’S THE BIG QUESTION MARK. DEMOCRATS ARE FEELING OPTIMISTIC ABOUT THEIR CHANCES IN THOSE THREE. BUT ALABAMA IS VERY TOUGH UNLESS YOU GET ROY MOORE AND HE IS NOT LEADING IN THE PREMARE POLLING RIGHT NOW. AFTER THOSE THREE, WHAT DO DEMOCRATS HAVE? THEY HAVE NORTH CAROLINA. THEY HAVE IOWA. THEY HAVE TEXAS, MAYBE KENTUCKY. HIGHLY UNLIKELY IN A PRESIDENTIAL YEAR. THEN KIND OF THE WILD CARD IN THIS IS MONTANA. IF STEVE BULLOCK JOINS THE GOVERNOR EXODUS FROM THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE WE SEE WITH JAY INSLEE AND JOHN HICKENLOOPER AND DECIDES TO RUN FOR SENATE IN MONTANA, DEMOCRATS BELIEVE THAT WOULD PUT MONTANA IN PLAY. IN THOSE OTHER THREE STATES, IOWA, TEXAS, AND NORTH CAROLINA, YOU DO HAVE, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY COMPETITIVE RACES. IT’S HARD TO IMAGINE DEMOCRATS WINNING THEM IF THEY DON’T ALSO WIN THE STATE PRESIDENTIALLY.>>WELL, STEVE BULLOCK TOLD ME WHEN WE WERE DOING THE PIECE WITH HIM OUT IN MONTANA THAT HE’S NOT INTERESTED IN RUNNING FOR THE SENATE. HE SAYS SPECIFICALLY THAT THERE WERE OTHER PEOPLE WHO WERE TALENTED AND COULD DO IT. AND HE WAS GOING TO STEP ASIDE. BUT YOUR MATH SUGGESTS THAT IF HE ENTIRE EQUATION HINGES ON MONDAY, MAYBE THAT WOULD CHANGE.>>IF ONLY THERE WERE A TOWN HALL MEETING. IF ONLY THERE WERE A SETTING WHERE YOU COULD ASK STEVE BULLOCK AGAIN THESE QUESTIONS.>>I WISH THERE WERE. OH, WELL.>>SUNDAY NIGHT RIGHT HERE ON CNN.>>JUST KIDDING. 6:00 P.M. EAST COAST TIME.>>I WAS GOING TO SAY REAL QUICK, IT’S A REASONABLE QUESTION TO ASK HIM WHAT IS THE BALANCE BETWEEN HIS PERSONAL AMBITION AND WHAT HE FEELS IN TERMS OF LOYALTY TO THE PARTY AND COUNTRY GIVEN THE STAKES IN THIS ELECTION. HOW CONTROL OF THE SENATE WILL DRAMATICALLY AFFECT WHAT THE NEXT PRESIDENT CAN ACHIEVE.>>SLOW DOWN, RON. LET ME WRITE THAT DOWN. YOU CAN BET THAT A QUESTION LIKE THAT WILL COME UP ON SUNDAY. WE’RE REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO ACTUALLY THAT TOWN HALL>>>BY THE WAY, STEEL. STEEL WAS DEAD. YOUR BUSINESS WAS DEAD. OKAY? I DON’T WANT TO BE OVERLY CRUDE. YOUR BUSINESS WAS DEAD. AND I PUT A LITTLE THING CALLED A 25% TARIFF ON ALL OF THE DUMP STEEL ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. AND NOW YOUR BUSINESS IS THRIVING.>>WELL, THAT WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP TOUTING THE SUCCESS OF HIS ADMINISTRATION’S TARIFFS ON THE STEEL IMPORTS LAST WEEK. BUT SOME STEEL WORKERS IN MICHIGAN MAY DISAGREE WITH THE PRESIDENT’S CLAIM THAT THE INDUSTRY IS THRIVING AFTER U.S. STEEL ANNOUNCED PLANS TO LAY OFF ABOUT 200 WORKERS AT ONE OF ITS PLANTS. CNN IS LIVE IN MICHIGAN WITH MORE. WHAT ARE THEY TELLING YOU, VANESSA?>>Reporter: GOOD MORNING, ALISYN. PEOPLE HERE IN THE COMMUNITY ARE CONFUSED AND SHOCKED ESPECIALLY HEARING THE PRESIDENT TALKING ABOUT THOSE TARIFFS. INSTEAD, U.S. STEEL ANNOUNCING THAT THEY ARE TEMPORARILY LAYING OFF ABOUT 200 WORKERS HERE AT THIS FACTORY BEHIND ME CITING CHALLENGING MARKET CONDITIONS THIS IS VERY MUCH IN CONTRAST WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID HERE. HE’S EVEN CITING HIMSELF WHY THE INDUSTRY CAME BACK. WE SPOKE TO ONE CITY OFFICIAL THAT HE SEES NO EVIDENCE OF THAT. HE AND ANOTHER COMMUNITY LEADER ARE CONCERNED THAT THESE TEMPORARY LAYOFFS MAY, IN FACT, BECOME PERMANENT.>>WE ASSUME THAT WE’D HAVE MORE PRODUCTION AND, IN FACT, WE THOUGHT IT’D HAVE THE REVERSE EFFECT. THERE’D BE MORE HIRING TAKING PLACE LOCALLY. IT WAS A SHOCK. AND I’M HOPING THAT THINGS REVERSE QUICKLY.>>IT’S A RECESSION WHEN YOUR NEIGHBOR’S LAID OFF. IT’S A DEPRESSION WHEN YOU GET LAID OFF. AND IT HASN’T CHANGED IN THE PAST 38 OR 39 YEARS. YOU KNOW, YOU GET CONCERNED WHEN YOU HEAR 200 PEOPLE ARE LAID OFF. SO IT IS A CONCERN.>>Reporter: THAT 200 NUMBER OF TEMPORARY LAYOFFS MAY NOT SOUND LIKE A LOT WHEN YOU COMPARE IT TO THE COUPLE THOUSAND THAT ARE WORKING HERE AT THIS FACTORY. BUT THE CONCERN IS OVER THIS BEING AN INDICATOR THAT THE INDUSTRY’S, IN FACT, IN PERIL RATHER THAN RECOVERING AS THE PRESIDENT NOTES. AND IF YOU JUST LOOK AT U.S. STEEL STOCK PRICES THIS TIME LAST YEAR, THAT STOCK WAS TRADING AT ABOUT $30 A SHARE. TODAY IT’S TRADING AT ABOUT $12 A SHARE. THAT’S ABOUT A 60% DECLINE. AND JOHN, WE ASKED U.S. STEEL WHEN THESE TEMPORARY LAYOFFS WOULD BE COMING BACK ONLINE. THEY TOLD US THEY DIDN’T KNOW WHEN THESE JOBS WOULD BE COMING BACK. JOHN?>>IT’S THE UNCERTAINTY. THE UNCERTAINTY THAT IS OUT THERE IS PART OF THIS ENVIRONMENT NOW AND THE PRESIDENT’S TRADE POLICY IS PART OF THAT. VANESSA YURKEVICH, THANK YOU FOR TALKING TO PEOPLE ABOUT THIS.>>>OKAY. SO THIS MIGHT BE THE MOST HOTLY CONTESTED QUESTION OF THE MORNING. TAKE A LOOK AT THIS. ALL RIGHT. YOU SEE THAT THERE? IS THAT A BIRD OR IS IT A BUNNY RABBIT? ALL RIGHT. THIS OPTICAL ILLUSION HAS THE INTERNET ON FIRE. I MEAN, ON FIRE. A SCIENTIST IN NORWAY FIRST SHARED THE VIDEO AND IT WENT VIRAL. A BIRD OR BUNNY. YOU CAN SEE IT BEING, YOU KNOW, STROKED THERE. YOU DON’T PET A BIRD. SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IT IS?>>WELL, BUNNY DOESN’T HAVE A BEAK. OKAY? SO I’M GOING WITH BIRD. BECAUSE THAT THING HAS A BEAK.>>SO I WAS TRYING TO CREATE SUSPENSE. BECAUSE I’M WITH YOU. BUT I THINK IT’S A BIRD TOO. BUNNY DOESN’T HAVE A BEAK AND YOU CAN SEE THE BEAK. SO THE INTERNET’S WASTING ITS TIME.>>OUR EP THINKS THOSE ARE EARS. OKAY, NO. EARS DON’T DO THAT. EARS DON’T EAT CORN LIKE THAT. SO IT TURNS OUT IT’S A BUNNY WITH WINGS EATING CORN. NO, NO. IT’S A BIRD. IT’S AN AFRICAN WHITE NECKED RAVEN NAMED MISCHIEF.>>I CAN SEE WHY.>>HE’S 18 YEARS OLD WHICH MEANS HE CAN DRIVE AND VOTE. BUT NOT YET DRINK. AND HE LIVES IN MISSOURI.>>YOU MIGHT VISIT THERE.>>I LIKE HAWKS AND EAGLES.>>I THOUGHT YOU LIKED ALL BIRDS.>>NOT THESE.>>NOT BUNNY BIRDS. THAT’S WHERE YOU DRAW THE LINE.>>THIS ONE SAYS STUFF. LISTEN TO THIS.>>HI. HI. HI. HI. HI. HI. HI.>>THAT’S MUCH MORE ALARMING OR CONCERNING OR REVELATORY RATHER THAN IF IT’S A BUNNY.>>I AGREE. IT’S A TALKING BUNNY.>>OKAY.>>OKAY. SORRY WE’VE RUINED THE FUN FOR EVERYBODY.>>I THINK THE INTERNET WAS DUMB ON THIS ONE. IT WAS SO CLEARLY A BIRD.>>YEAH.>>>WELCOME TO OUR VIEWERS ALL AROUND THE WORLD AND THE UNITED STATES. THIS IS “NEW DAY.” THIS MORNING PRESIDENT TRUMP WALKING A FINE LINE OR MAYBE TROTTING ON THAT FINE LINE BETWEEN BRAVADO AND BIZARREO. SOME OFFICIALS SAID THEY WERE INCREASINGLY WORRIED ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S BEHAVIOR SUGGESTING IT STEMS FROM RISING PRESSURE ON MR. TRUMP AS THE ECONOMY SEEMS MORE WORRISOME AND NEXT YEAR’S ELECTION APPROACHES. ALL THIS COMES AS THERE’S NEW TROUBLES SIGNS FOR THE U.S. ECONOMY. HALF A MILLION FEWER JOB GAINS THAN REPORTED IN THE LARGEST DOWNWARD REVISION IN A DECADE. THE YIELD CURVE INVERTED AGAIN. AND THE BUDGET DEFICIT IS ON PATH TO TOP $1 TRILLION.>>SO ALL THIS AS THE PRESIDENT’S RHETORIC REACHES NEW, EVEN WEIRDER LIMITS. HE REFERS TO HIMSELF AS THE CHOSEN ONE TO TAKE ON CHINA ON TRADE. HE ALSO PRAISED A CONSPIRACY THEORIST WHO CALLED HIM THE KING OF ISRAEL. AND HE AGAIN QUESTIONED THE LOYALTY OF JEWS WHO VOTE FOR DEMOCRATS. HE ALSO AGAIN CRITICIZED DENMARK CALLING THE FEMALE PRIME MINISTER NASTY FOR REFUSING TO SELL GREENLAND. WHAT IS BEHIND THIS SCATTER SHOT APPROACH FROM THE PRESIDENT? JOINING US NOW IS ANNA NAVARRO, JEFFREY TOOBIN, AND BEN HOWE. GREAT TO HAVE ALL OF YOU. ANNA, LISTEN. WE HAD A DEBATE EARLIER IN THE PROGRAM ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THE PRESIDENT AT THIS POINT IS JUST MESSING WITH EVERYONE. HE’S CALLING HIMSELF THE CHOSEN ONE. HE’S SUGGESTING HE’S THE MESSIAH. HE SEEMS TO BE ENJOYING THIS MOMENT OF RHETORICAL MADNESS OR MR. TOAD’S WILD RIDE. OR DO YOU SEE SOMETHING ELSE HAPPENING HERE?>>IS IT MUTUALLY EXCLUSIVE? CAN HE BE A RAVING BAD NARCISSIST WITH A COMPLEX AND AT THE SAME TIME BE TRYING TO DISTRACT US FROM A SKITTISH ECONOMY? FROM THE FACT THAT HE TRIGGERED A WHITE SUPREMACIST TO GO HUNT DOWN LATINOS LIKE THEY WERE ANIMALS? FROM THE FACT WHHE CAPITULATED THE NRA AFTER HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO GO FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS. IT’S ALARMING. IT’S WORRYING. FOLKS TELL ME I’M NOT A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL AND SHOULDN’T BE TALKING ABOUT THIS. BECAUSE MY FOUR POUND MICROPOOD CHA-CHA CAN LOOK AT THIS AND SAY IT IS INSANE. IT IS BEYOND NOT BEING NORMAL. RIGHT NOW IT IS A LEVEL OF INSTABILITY. I JUST CAME BACK FROM 17 DAYS ABROAD. WE ARE THE LAUGHING STOCK INTERNATIONALLY. YOU CAN’T GO ANYWHERE WITHOUT PEOPLE SAYING, WHAT IS WRONG WITH TRUMP? WHAT IS WRONG WITH AMERICA? HAVE AMERICANS LOST THEIR MIND? THIS FIGHT WITH DENMARK, AN ALLY, OVER BUYING GREENLAND? THIS IS INSANE. [ SPEAKING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE ]>>EVEN YOUR POODLE UNDERSTOOD THAT. >>WHY CAN’T ANA GIVE A STRAIGHT ANSWER? WHY CAN’T SHE JUST SAY WHAT SHE MEANS? YOU KNOW? CAN I JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE I AGREE WITH EVERY WORD ANA SAID. BUT THE OTHER POINT IS, WHERE IS THE — >>NOW SAY IT IN SPANISH.>>SORRY, I KNOW MY LIMITS. WHERE IS THE REPUBLICAN PARTY? WHERE IS ANYONE IN THAT PARTY WHO, YOU KNOW, CAN SAY THAT THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES AND THE EMPEROR IS ACTING LIKE A LUNATIC? I MEAN, THIS IS SO OBVIOUS. THIS IS SO WRONG. AND THE NARCISSISM AND THE CONSTANT LYING, IT’S OBVIOUS TO ANYONE. THE FACT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY HAS NO ONE WITH THE COURAGE TO SPEAK UP ABOUT THIS IS A SHAME ON THIS PARTY AND IT WILL HAUNT THAT PARTY.>>THERE ARE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE CHALLENGING THE PRESIDENT.>>LIKE JOE WALSH?>>JOE WALSH WILL BE ON IN A FEW MINUTES SO BE CAREFUL WHAT YOU SAY.>>THESE ARE NOT MAJOR FIGURES IN THE PARTY.>>CAN I ASK THIS A DIFFERENT WAY, BEN HOWE? BECAUSE I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. I WANT YOUR TAKE ON THIS. WHERE THE PRESIDENT LOOKED TO THE SKIES AND CALLED HIMSELF THE CHOSEN ONE.>>SOMEBODY SAID IT’S TRUMP’S TRADE WAR. THIS ISN’T MY TRADE WAR. THIS IS A TRADE WAR THAT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE A LONG TIME AGO BY A LOT OF OTHER PRESIDENTS. SOMEBODY HAD TO DO IT. I AM THE CHOSEN ONE. SOMEBODY HAD TO DO IT.>>I AM THE CHOSEN ONE, HE SAID. AND I WANT YOU TO WEIGH IN ON THIS CONVERSATION OVERALL, BUT AS SOMEONE WHO JUST WROTE A BOOK ON THIS “THE IMMORAL MAJORITY.” HOW WOULD THE RIGHT OR CHRISTIAN CONSERVATIVES OR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN GENERAL HAVE REACTED IF PRESIDENT OBAMA HAD LOOKED TO THE SKIES AND SAID I AM THE CHOSEN ONE?>>THAT’S A GOOD QUESTION. BECAUSE THE CHOSEN ONE WAS A PHRASE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE ACTUALLY USED AS A JOKE. PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT WOULD SAY THAT ABOUT OBAMA. THEY WOULD SAY, OH, YOU THINK HE’S THE CHOSEN ONE AND THAT WAS THE INSULT. EVERYBODY OBAMA EVER SAYING IT. TRUMP GOES AHEAD AND SAYS IT. WHAT’S INTERESTING IS HE’S ALWAYS TALKED THIS WAY. I MEAN, AT THE CONVENTION IN 2016, HE SAID THAT HE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO COULD DISRUPT THE ESTABLISHMENT. HE SAID I’M THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN FIX IT IN REGARDS TO THE ECONOMY. SO HE’S ALWAYS TALKED THIS WAY. IT’S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT THERE ARE PLENTY OF EVANGELICALS THAT ARE SURROUNDING THIS GUY. AND THEY’RE KIND OF IN HIS EAR AT ALL TIMES SAYING DON’T WORRY ABOUT THE STUFF THAT NORMAL CHRISTIANS DON’T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT. YOU’VE GOT A JOB TO DO. YOU DON’T NECESSARILY REPRESENT LIKE YOU’VE GOT ROBERT JEFFREYS WHO SAID THAT HE DOESN’T WANT A PRESIDENT THAT REPRESENTS THE KIND OF VALUES THAT JESUS SPOKE ABOUT. HE WANTS KIND OF THE OPPOSITE OF THAT. WE SHOULD RUN FROM A CANDIDATE THAT WOULD BE MORE LIKE THAT. WE SHOULD RUN FOR A PRESIDENT THAT WOULD BE MORE LIKE THAT. WHEN YOU HAVE THESE GUYS IN YOUR EAR EVERY DAY PRAYING OVER YOU AND EXEMPTING YOU, THEN IT’S NOT THAT SURPRISING THAT HE WOULD THINK THAT WAY. I ALSO THINK, YOU KNOW, FOR MOST PEOPLE IF THEY JOKINGLY SAID I’M THE CHOSEN ONE, IT COULD BE TAKEN AS A JOKE. BUT CONTEXTUALLY SPEAKING, HE HAD BASICALLY JUST CALLED HIMSELF THE KING OF THE JEWS. WELL, THE KING OF ISRAEL. BUT HE WAS HAPPY TO QUOTE ALL OF THAT ABOUT HIMSELF. SO CONTEXTUALLY GIVEN EVERYTHING HE’S SAID IN THE PAST FROM ALL THE WAY BACK IN 2016 UNTIL TODAY, HE BELIEVES IT. HE BELIEVES HE IS THE CHOSEN ONE.>>CAN I JUST ADD ONE POINT TO THAT? THERE ARE NEVER ANY JOKES WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP. THAT’S WHAT HE — WHEN HE SAYS SOMETHING AND THEN, YOU KNOW, HIS ENABLERS COME AND SAY IT’S A JOKE, IT’S NOT A JOKE. WHEN HE SAID DURING THE CAMPAIGN, RUSSIA IF YOU’RE LOOKING FOR — FIND HILLARY’S EMAILS. HE MEANT FIND HILLARY’S EMAILS. WHEN HE SAID THE CHOSEN UNWONE, MEANT THE CHOSEN ONE. THIS IS WHAT HE BELIEVES.>>MAYBE HE WAS REFERRING TO BEING CHOSEN BY PUTIN. THAT WOULD BE A HELL OF A LOT MORE BELIEVABLE. AND YOU KNOW THE ANSWER OF WHAT EVANGELICALS WOULD BE DOING IF PRESIDENT OBAMA SAID IT. THEY WOULD BE THUMPING THEIR BIBLES AND DEMANDING AN APOLOGY FOR MAKING A COMPARISON TO GOD. HERE WE HAVE A GUY WHO IS A PATHOLOGICAL LIAR, A CHEATER, WHO EMBODIES EVERY VALUE THAT IS ANTITHESIS TO WHAT RELIGIOUS PEOPLE HOLD DEAR CALLING HIMSELF THE CHOSEN ONE. AND EVERYBODY JUST SHRUGS THEIR SHOULDERS AND SAYS IT’S TRUMP BEING TRUMP. BECAUSE THE BRILLIANCE OF WHAT TRUMP DID IN 2018 WAS HE INSTILLED FEAR AND TERROR INTO EVERY REPUBLICAN RUNNING FOR OFFICE. BECAUSE IF HE OPPOSES YOU AND GOES AFTER YOU, YOU’RE GOING TO LOSE YOUR PRIMARY. AND SO NOW THEY’RE COWERING IN SILENT COMPLICITY.>>IT’S ALSO WORTH POINTING OUT IN TERMS OF NARCISSISM, YOU KNOW, HE’S GOT THE NARCISSIST DREAM LIFE. HE SPENT HIS WHOLE LIFE A BILLIONAIRE GETTING A LOT OF ATTENTION AND THINKING HE’S THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE, ESSENTIALLY. THEN HE BECAME THE PRESIDENT AND SORT OF BECAME THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE. FROM HIS POINT OF VIEW, EVERYTHING IS DESTINED IN A WAY. I PUT A LOT OF BLAME ON THE PEOPLE AROUND HIM. THESE PEOPLE FEED INTO THAT EGO AND ASSURE HIM ALL OF THOSE ILLUSIONS OF GRANDEUR — IF THEY’RE SUPPOSED TO BE A REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT SURVIVES PAST DONALD TRUMP, MAYBE DON’T JUST FEED THE NARCISSIST’S EGO FOR THE NEXT TWO YEARS.>>YOU DON’T HAVE TO BE A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL, ANA, TO READ THE DSM MANUAL, THE DEFINITION OF NARCISSISM. IT SPELLS OUT THE SIGN POSTS AND THE SYMPTOMS AND THEN THINKING THAT — SAYING THAT YOU’RE THE CHOSEN ONE, RETWEETING YOU’RE THE KING OF ISRAEL. ONLY SEEING THINGS THROUGH YOUR OWN WARPED LENS. ALL OF THAT IS FINE. WE CAN LEAVE IT TO THE MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONALS IF WE WANT, BUT IT DOES HAVE A CORROSIVE EFFECT ON THE COUNTRY. AND I THINK THE MOST TROUBLING AND REALLY, REALLY UPSETTING TODAY ARE ALL THE SPATE OF MASS SHOOTINGS THAT WE’RE SEEING AND THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN FOILED, THANK GOD, BY GOOD POLICE WORK. BUT EVERY DAY WE ARE REPORTING HERE ON THE PROGRAM ABOUT SOMEBODY WITH A CACHE OF WEAPONS WHO HAS THREATENED TO DO A MASS SHOOTING. THE POLICE HAVE HAD TO FOIL BECAUSE IT TURNS OUT THAT IT IS CONTAGIOUS. PEOPLE SEE THE MASS SHOOTINGS AND THINK TO THEMSELVES IF THEY HAVE ANY PROBLEM, THAT’S THE SOLUTION. I, TOO, CAN GET MY HANDS ON A WEAPON AND DO MASS SHOOTINGS. AND WE HAVE A SEGMENT COMING UP WITH SOME OF THE SURVIVORS OF PARKLAND. AND IT’S JUST — THAT IS WHAT WE SHOULD BE — WHAT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SHOULD BE WORKING TO FIX. BUT BECAUSE OF THIS SKCATTER SHT APPROACH, WE ARE ALL OVER THE PLACE.>>IT’S NOT THE SCATTER SHOT APPROACH. IT’S THE NRA RUNNING THE WHITE HOUSE ON THIS ISSUE. I MEAN, THE NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION IS RUNNING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY AS IT HAS RUN IT FOR AT LEAST A GENERATION. AND IF WAYNE LAPIERRE DOESN’T WANT A BILL PASSED, A BILL WILL NOT PASS. I MEAN, REMEMBER. THERE WAS A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT AFTER SANDY HOOK IN CONNECTICUT. AND THEY COULDN’T GET A — ANY SORT OF GUN SAFETY BILL PASSED. THEY’RE NOT GOING TO GET IT PASSED NOW WITH A REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT.>>CAN I TELL YOU WHAT I THINK IS WEIGHING ON HIM MORE THOUGH? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY IT DOESN’T APPEAR AS IF HE PUT THAT MUCH THOUGHT INTO THE GUN DISCUSSION. HE SEEMS TO BE ON ALL SIDES. I THINK IT’S THE ECONOMY. BASED ON WHAT WE’RE HEARING FROM THE PRESIDENT’S ADVISERS, BASED ON WHAT WE’RE SEEING IN THE DATA HERE, THERE ARE REAL CONCERNS HERE. THE LABOR DEPARTMENT JUST REPORTED WEAKER JOB GAINS THAN REPORTED. THE YIELD CURVE INVERTED AGAIN YESTERDAY. THE BUDGET DEFICIT IS ON PATH TO SURPASS $1 TRILLION. BEN, YOU’RE A FORMER TEA PARTY GUY, FISCAL CONSERVATIVE. THE ECONOMY HAS BEEN REALLY IMPORTANT TO YOU. WHAT DOES IT DO — IF THE PRESIDENT LOSES THE ECONOMY AS A TALKING POINT, HOW DO YOU THINK THAT WEIGHS ON HIM? COULD THAT EXPLAIN THIS ERRATIC BEHAVIOR?>>WELL, NO. I DON’T THINK IT EXPLAINS THE ERRATIC BEHAVIOR BECAUSE THAT I FIND TO BE ONE OF THE MOST — IT’S ERRATIC, BUT IT’S CONSISTENT. HE’S BEEN CONSISTENTLY ERRATIC FOR A LONG TIME. I’M SEEING THE SAME BEHAVIORS NOW THAT I THINK I SAW A FEW YEARS AGO, BUT I WILL SAY GOING INTO 2020, IT MIGHT SEEM A LITTLE MORE UNHINGED, PERHAPS, AS THE PARTY STARTS TO GROW IN THAT ERRATICNESS WITH HIM. BECAUSE IN 2016 WHICH WE ALL POINT BACK TO AS THE DUMPSTER FIRE YEAR WHERE EVERYTHING WAS INSANE, EVEN HIS SUPPORTERS DIDN’T THINK HE WOULD WIN. NOBODY THOUGHT HE WOULD WIN. SO THAT GOT UPSET AND THEN HE DID. IT’S NOT GOING TO GET CALMER NOW IN 2020 WHEN EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT HE CAN WIN. AND CERTAINLY HIS, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTERS WHO WERE ALREADY PRETTY DIE-HARD EVEN THOUGH HE THOUGHT HE PROBABLY WOULDN’T WIN. HOW INSANE IS IT GOING TO GET NOW THAT THEY KNOW THIS? AND CONSIDER ALSO WE’VE GOT TWO SUPREME COURT NOMINEES THAT HE GOT. THE IDEA OF GETTING TWO MORE, THAT’S THE PROMISED LAND. THEY’RE GOING TO GO NUTS TO GET THAT TO HAPPEN REGARDLESS OF THE ECONOMY.>>THERE YOU GO. BEN, JEFFREY, ANA, THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATION.>>GOD FORBID THIS CHOSEN ONE LEAD US INTO THAT PROMISED LAND.>>THANK YOU, ANA.>>>JEFFREY TOOBIN TEASED IT BEFORE. COULD PRESIDENT TRUMP HAVE A NEW REPUBLICAN CHALLENGER AS OF THIS MORNING? WE’RE GOING TO BE JOINED BY SOMEONE WEIGHING A 2020 ELECTION BID NEXT.>>>HAPPENING NOW, “THE NEW YORK TIMES” IS REPORTING THIS MORNING THAT A NEW REPUBLICAN COULD JUMP INTO THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE TO CHALLENGE PRESIDENT TRUMP IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS. JOINING US NOW IS JOE WALSH, CONSERVATIVE RADIO HOST AND FORMER CONGRESSMAN FROM ILLINOIS. WHEN YOU WERE WITH US LAST WEEK, YOU SAID YOU HADN’T RULED OUT A RUN FOR THE WHITE HOUSE. “THE NEW YORK TIMES” SAYS NOW YOU MIGHT MAKE UP YOUR MIND IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS. HOW ABOUT RIGHT NOW? ARE YOU CHALLENGING PRESIDENT TRUMP IN THE REPUBLICAN PRIMARY?>>HEY, JOHN, IT’S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU. I’M NOT AVOIDING YOUR QUESTION, BUT BEFORE I ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, CAN I JUST GET THIS OUT? I LISTENED TO YOUR PRIOR SEGMENT AND IT’S FASCINATING TV, BUT, MAN. I THINK WE OVERANALYZE TRUMP. HE’S A HORRIBLE HUMAN BEING. HE’S A BAD, BAD GUY. AND EVERY SINGLE DAY YOU, I, AND EVERYBODY WATCHING US RIGHT NOW IS REMINDED OF HOW DAMN UNFIT HE IS. AND TO WHAT JEFFREY TOOBIN SAID THAT HE’S STUNNED NO ONE HAS STEPPED UP TO CHALLENGE HIM ON HIS UNFITNESS. JEFFREY’S RIGHT, THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WILL ALWAYS REGRET THE FACT THAT THEY DID NOT CALL THIS MAN OUT. SOMEBODY HAS TO.>>IF YOU FEEL THAT WAY, ARE YOU RUNNING AGAINST HIM?>>I’M STRONGLY, STRONGLY CONSIDERING IT. THAT’S — AGAIN, I’M NOT TRYING TO BE CUTE OR COY. IF SOMEBODY’S GOING TO GET IN THERE AND GO AFTER HIM, IT’S GOT TO BE DONE SOON. YOU’RE RUNNING OUT OF TIME. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, THESE ARE NOT CONVENTIONAL TIMES. LOOK AT THE GUY IN THE WHITE HOUSE. THESE ARE URGENT TIMES. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAKE THAT CASE. I HAVE YET TO HEAR ANY POTENTIAL REPUBLICAN MAKE THAT CASE.>>WHY WOULDN’T YOU? WHY WOULDN’T YOU RUN AT THIS POINT? IF YOU FEEL AS STRONGLY AS YOU DO, WHY NOT YOU?>>I MAY. I JUST DON’T KNOW YET. I DON’T KNOW YET. BUT IT’S GOT TO BE DONE SOON. IF I DO IT, I WILL DO IT SOON. LOOK. I’M A FORMER CONGRESSMAN. I’VE BEEN ON THE RADIO AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR THE LAST SIX YEARS. I’M AN OKAY GUY. THERE ARE BIGGER NAMES THAN ME. THERE ARE BIGGER FORMER SENATORS AND MEMBERS OF CONGRESS. BUT NONE OF THEM HAVE THE COURAGE TO STEP UP AND CHALLENGE HIM. JOHN, THIS IS THE TIME WHERE SOMEBODY’S GOT TO BE BEHAVE.>>SO YOU SAY NO ONE HAS THE COURAGE KRISTOL WHO YOU’VE BEEN TALKING TO, YOU’RE TALKING TO PEOPLE BEHIND THE SCENES HERE FOR REAL. THIS IS A REAL CONSIDERATION NOW. BILL KRISTOL MAKES CLEAR THAT YOU’RE APPEALING TO HIM BECAUSE YOU’RE THE KIND OF GUY WHO CAN PUNCH THE PRESIDENT IN THE NOSE RHETORICALLY. WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT, DO YOU THINK?>>BECAUSE TRUMP’S A BULLY AND HE’S A COWARD. AND THE ONLY WAY YOU BEAT A BULLY AND YOU BEAT A COWARD IS TO EXPOSE THEM. IS TO PUNCH THEM. DONALD TRUMP’S BEEN A CON MAN HIS WHOLE LIFE. AGAIN, FOR THE LIFE OF ME, JOHN, I DON’T KNOW WHY ANY OTHER REPUBLICAN CAN’T SAY THIS. IT’S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE DEBT AND THE DEFICITS. THAT’S A CONCERN. IT’S GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH HIS BAD, HORRIBLE TARIFFS. THEY ARE BAD AND HORRIBLE. HE IS A BAD MAN WHO — AND WE DON’T TALK ABOUT THIS ENOUGH, JOHN. MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF AMERICAN CHILDREN EVERY SINGLE DAY IN THIS COUNTRY ARE LEARNING. THEY’RE PAYING ATTENTION. THEY’RE LEARNING THAT IT’S OKAY TO LIE AND BE A BULLY AND BE CRUEL. THE ONLY WAY YOU PRIMARY DONALD TRUMP AND BEAT HIM IS TO EXPOSE HIM FOR THE CON MAN HE IS. AND IF I DID IT, JOHN, THAT’S WHAT I’D DO. I’D PUNCH HIM EVERY SINGLE DAY.>>YOU HAVE CALLED HIM A BAD MAN AMONG OTHER THINGS. HE IS IN YOUR WORDS A BAD MAN THAT YOU VOTED FOR.>>YES. ABSOLUTELY. SO I FOUND THE RELIGION. LOOK, YOU AND I TALKED. HE LOST ME AT HELSINKI ABOUT A YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO WHEN HE STOOD IN FRONT OF THE WORLD AND SAID, I’M WITH THAT GUY PUTIN AND NOT MY OWN PEOPLE. THAT WAS IT. THAT WAS UGLY. THAT WAS DISLOYAL. BUT REALLY, JOHN, WHAT’S GROWN ON ME SINCE 2016 IS THIS TROUBLING TRUTH. VIRTUALLY EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH, HE LIES. I MEAN, WE’VE NEVER HAD THAT BEFORE. LOOK. I WAS IN CONGRESS WITH OBAMA AND I CALLED HIM OUT ON A COUPLE OF DOOZIES. BUT WE’VE NEVER HAD A PRESIDENT — AND THIS IS PRETTY SCARY. WE’VE NEVER BEEN IN A SITUATION WHERE EVERY SINGLE TIME A PRESIDENT OPENED HIS MOUTH, IT WAS A LIE. I DON’T GIVE A DAMN WHAT YOUR POLITICS ARE. THAT’S GOT TO BE CALLED OUT.>>LET ME ASK YOU THIS. YOU’RE ON CONSERVATIVE RADIO NOW AND YOU WENT AFTER PRESIDENT OBAMA A LOT IN WAYS YOU’VE APOLOGIZED FOR. YOU SAID HE WAS A MUSLIM. YOU’VE APOLOGIZED FOR THAT. HAD PRESIDENT OBAMA GONE OUT IN THE WHITE HOUSE, THE SOUTH LAWN LOOKED UP AT THE SKY AND SAID I AM THE CHOSEN ONE. HOW WOULD HAVE 2015 JOE WALSH HAVE TREATED THAT ON THE RADIO?>>2015 JOE WALSH WOULD HAVE GONE CRAZY. AND JOHN, MORE IMPORTATLY, ALL OF MY LISTENERS IN CONSERVATIVE TALK RADIO WOULD HAVE GONE CRAZY. THIS AGAIN IS WHAT’S SO DISAPPOINTING. THE SILENCE. TRUMP INCREASES THE DEFICITS MORE THAN OBAMA AND YET ALL OF MY LISTENERS AND ALL OF THE REPUBLICANS STAY SILENT. I’VE TOLD YOU THIS BEFORE. THE ONE GOOD THING DONALD TRUMP HAS DONE FOR ME IS HE’S TAUGHT ME HOW ABSOLUTELY UGLY PERSONAL POLITICAL HATE IS. BECAUSE I ENGAGED IN THAT WAY, WAY TOO MUCH WHEN I WAS IN CONGRESS. TRUMP HAS KIND OF SHOWN US HOW BAD IT CAN BE BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT HE ALWAYS DOES.>>I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE THING CLEAR. YOU SAID PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS A MUSLIM. I DON’T THINK ACCUSING ANYONE OF BEING A MUSLIM WAS AN INSULT. IT JUST WASN’T TRUE AND IT WAS USED OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME TO ATTACK THE PRESIDENT. JOE, CAN YOU WIN?>>YES. BECAUSE HERE’S THE BET I THINK. AND I THINK — BY THE WAY, JOHN. DON’T TRICK ME INTO SAYING CAN I WIN. I THINK A GOOD CHALLENGER CAN WIN. AGAIN, JOHN, ONLY IF THEY MAKE THE MORAL CASE. THIS GUY’S UNFIT. HE LIES EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH. IF YOU’RE NOT GOING TO SAY THAT, THEN DON’T EVEN CHALLENGE HIM.>>IS IT WORTH RUNNING, THOUGH, EVEN IF YOU CAN’T WIN?>>YES. BECAUSE THIS IS A SCARY TIME. AND IF REPUBLICANS STAY SILENT IN THE FACE OF THIS GUY, I DON’T THINK THE COUNTRY WILL EVER FORGIVE THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, BUT FORGET ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY. IF THIS GUY GETS FOUR MORE YEARS, WE’RE IN REAL, REAL TROUBLE. IT’S WORTH DOING ANYTHING YOU CAN DO TO TRY TO STOP THAT.>>I GOT TO LET YOU GO. BUT WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO DECIDE BY? WHAT’S THE DEADLINE DATE?>>LABOR DAY’S IN A WEEK. IF YOU WANT TO GET IN, YOU’VE GOT TO GET IN WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO.>>ALL RIGHT. FORMER CONGRESSMAN JOE WALSH, THANK YOU FOR COMING ON THIS MORNING ALTHOUGH NOT REVEALING YOUR INTENTIONS. MAYBE LEANING A LITTLE BIT MORE TOWARD IT. IS THAT SAFE TO SAY THIS MORNING?>>SAFE TO SAY. GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.>>APPRECIATE IT.>>FASCINATING. ALWAYS FASCINATING TO TALK TO HIM.>>>I’M LOOKING TO DO BACKGROUND CHECKS. I THINK BACKGROUND CHECKS ARE IMPORTANT. PEOPLE DON’T REALIZE WE HAVE VERY STRONG BACKGROUND CHECKS RIGHT NOW. I HAVE TO TELL YOU THAT IT IS A MENTAL PROBLEM AND I’VE SAID IT A HUNDRED TIMES, IT’S NOT THE GUN THAT PULLS THE TRIGGER. IT’S THE PERSON THAT PULLS THE TRIGGER. I HAVE AN APPETITE FOR BACKGROUND CHECKS. WE’RE GOING TO BE DOING BACKGROUND CHECKS.>>THAT WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYING NOTHING ABOUT SOLVING THE MASS SHOOTING CRISIS IN THE COUNTRY. LESS THAN THREE WEEKS AFTER THE DEADLY ATTACKS IN TEXAS AND OHIO AND CALIFORNIA. JOINING US NOW IS DAVID HOGG, THE COFOUNDER OF MARCH FOR OUR LIVES AND IS SURVIVOR OF THE PARKLAND SHOOTING. AND FRED GUNNBURG WHO HAS LOST HIS CHILD IN PARKLAND. I’M SORRY THIS HAS TO BE IN THIS SITUATION. INCLUDING HE SPATE OF ARRESTS POLICE HAVE FOILED. POTENTIAL MASS SHOOTINGS THIS WEEK. IT FEELS LIKE ALMOST EVERY DAY. FRED, WHY IS IT SO HARD FOR THE PRESIDENT AND REPUBLICANS IN THIS SENATE OR CONGRESS TO DO SOMETHING THAT 90% OF AMERICANS WHEN POLLED SAY THEY WANT WHICH IS EXPANDING BACKGROUND CHECKS?>>YOU KNOW WHAT? IT’S A GREAT QUESTION. AND I’M GOING TO TRY AND SAY IT LIKE THIS. I DON’T CARE WHY THEY ARE UNABLE. WHAT I WILL SAY IS IF THEY DON’T FIND THE WAY TO BE ABLE, WE’RE GOING TO DEFEAT THEM. BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE DYING EVERY SINGLE DAY. THEY ARE MAKING THIS A POLITICAL — LISTEN. BULLETS, WHEN THEY SHOOT YOU THEY DON’T KNOW IF YOU’RE REPUBLICAN OR DEMOCRAT. THEY DON’T KNOW IF YOU’RE RICH OR POOR. THEY KNOW IF THEY HIT YOU, THEY’RE GOING TO KILL YOU. AND WHEN WE HAVE THESE LEGISLATORS WHOSE JOB IT IS TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THIS AND THEY CHOOSE NOT TO, WHEN 90% OF AMERICANS ARE SAYING HERE’S WHAT WE WANT, THEY SHOULD BE FIRED.>>PARTICULARLY RIGHT NOW, DAVID. THE NRA IS AT ITS WEAKEST POINT IN RECENT MEMORY. IT’S HAD THIS MASS EXODUS OF ITS LEADERSHIP. IT IS HOBBLED BY A CORRUPTION SCANDAL AND THEY’RE STILL AFRAID OF WAYNE LAPIERRE?>>AND SINCE MARCH FOR OUR LIVES FILED A COMPLAINT WITH THE NEW YORK ATTORNEY GENERAL THAT HELPED THOSE INVESTIGATIONS, I CAN’T IMAGINE WHY THEY’RE STILL AFRAID OF WAYNE LAPIERRE. I CAN’T UNDERSTAND THE PEOPLE THAT STILL SUPPORT THE NRA. AND THE FACT THAT THEIR CEO HAS SPENT $240,000 ON ITALIAN SUITS. HE HAS SPENT OVER A HALF MILLION DOLLARS ON A PRIVATE JET TRIP WITH HIS WIFE TOBAHAMAS.>>AND BOUGHT HIM A $6 MILLION HOME.>>I THINK WHAT THAT TELLS US MORE THAN ANYTHING IS THE NRA DOESN’T CARE ABOUT GUN OWNERS LIKE MY FATHER. I’VE GROWN UP MY ENTIRE LIFE WITH GUNS IN MY HOUSEHOLD. I’VE BEEN SHOOTING GUNS SINCE I WAS IN FOURTH GRADE AND I KNOW THE NRA DOESN’T CARE ABOUT GUN OWNERS LIKE MY FATHER BECAUSE THEY’VE FOUGHT AGAINST PUTTING GUNS UNDER THE CONSUMER PROTECTION ACT. AND TO ENSURE THERE IS NO MANUFACTURER LIABILITY.>>SELLING GUNS, YES.>>BUT ON A MORE EMOTIONAL AND PERSONAL NOTE, WHAT ARE THESE THREE WEEKS LIKE FOR YOU GUYS? WHEN YOU HAVE TO WATCH THE MASS SHOOTING IN GILROY, CALIFORNIA, IN EL PASO, IN DAYTON. AS WE SAID, ALL THE ONES BEING FOILED RIGHT NOW, WHAT HAPPENS WITH YOU GUYS AFTER A WEEK LIKE THIS?>>YOU KNOW, THE DAY AFTER THE TWO MASS SHOOTINGS THAT HAPPENED IN A 12-HOUR PERIOD, I WAS SUPPOSED TO BE LEAVING ON A VACATION WITH MY WIFE AND SON. IT WAS THE FIRST TIME WHERE I’VE ACTUALLY PROMISED THEM I’M PUTTING THE PHONE AWAY, COMPUTER AWAY. WE’RE GOING TO DISCONNECT AND GET AWAY. AND THEN YOU HAVE TWO MASS SHOOTINGS. AND WHAT I REALIZED IS AS MUCH AS I WANT TO PUT THIS AWAY SOMETIMES AND DISCONNECT, GUN VIOLENCE DOESN’T STOP. THE REALITY IS EVERY SINGLE DAY — AND IT’S NOT JUST MASS SHOOTINGS. BECAUSE A WEEK BEFORE THOSE TWO MASS SHOOTINGS, I WAS IN CINCINNATI, OHIO, THAT JUST HAD ITS DEADLIEST MONTH ON RECORD. 18 KILLED I THINK IN A 3-WEEK PERIOD. BUT IT’S INDIVIDUAL CHUTINE SHO. IT WAS THEIR DEADLIEST MONTH ON RECORD. THEY’RE HAPPENING EVERY DAY. AND UNTIL — AND I SAID TO DAVID EARLIER. WITHOUT GETTING INTO THE DETAILS OF HIS PLAN, I LOVE THE GOAL OF IT. WHICH IS REDUCING THE GUN VIOLENCE DEATH RATE IN HALF. OKAY? UNTIL WE HAVE SERIOUS LEGISLATORS WHO HAVE A GOAL OF REDUCING THE GUN VIOLENCE DEATH RATE, WE NEED TO KEEP THE PRESSURE ON THEM AND EITHER GET THEM TO DO THEIR JOBS OR SHOW UP AT THIS NEXT VOTE AND FIRE THEM.>>AND I AM GOING TO GET TO YOUR PLAN IN ONE SECOND. BUT JUST FOR YOU, DAVID, I MEAN, YOU’RE OBVIOUSLY SO ACTIVE. YOU’RE SO VOCAL. WHAT HAPPENS DURING THESE COUPLE OF WEEKS FOR YOU?>>IT’S PAINFUL. IT’S REALLY PAINFUL TO SEE PEOPLE THAT CLAIM THAT THEY REPRESENT US BECAUSE WE CLAIM TO BE IN A REPRESENTATIONAL REPRESENTATIVE DEMOCRACY THAT DON’T AGREE TO DO SOMETHING THAT 90% OF AMERICANS SUPPORT IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE OF CORPORATE SPECIAL INTERESTS, RIGHT? IT’S PAINFUL FOR ME TO SEE IT BECAUSE I KNOW IN MY JURY NIECE ACROSS THE COUNTRY AND MEETING SURVIVORS OF GUN SUICIDE AND SURVIVORS OF UNINTENTIONAL SHOOTING AND EVERYDAY GUN VIOLENCE, WHERE THERE ARE MILLIONS OF CHILDREN WHO HAVE TO WALK TO AND FROM SCHOOL ON A DAILY BASIS OFTENTIMES THROUGH POLICE CAUTION TAPE THAT DON’T GET ON THE NEWS. I’M THINKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE MASS SHOOTINGS EVERY DAY IN THE UNITED STATES THAT ARE NOT TALKED ABOUT AS MASS SHOOTINGS BECAUSE THEY’RE IN HISTORICALLY MARGINALIZED COMMUNITIES THAT FACE RECORD AMOUNTS OF INJUSTICE.>>AND ALSO, YOU’RE RIGHT. THERE’S SO MUCH GUN VIOLENCE. IT IS HARD FOR US TO TALK ABOUT IT EVERY DAY. AND IT IS THE MOST DRAMATIC MASS SHOOTINGS THAT GET THE MOST ATTENTION. RIGHT OR WRONG. BUT THERE’S NO DEARTH OF THEM. WE TALK ABOUT THEM ALL THE TIME. YOU HAVE BEEN TACKLING GUN VIOLENCE. BUT REMEMBER IN THE DAYS AFTER PARKLAND WHERE THE PRESIDENT HAD THAT EMOTIONAL MEETING AT THE WHITE HOUSE WITH THE FAMILY MEMBERS. IN THEIR GRIEF AND THEIR DEVASTATION. THEY TRAVELED TO WASHINGTON, D.C., HOPING THAT THIS TIME WOULD BE DIFFERENT AND THAT THIS TIME THE PRESIDENT WOULD DO SOMETHING. AND HERE’S WHAT THE PRESIDENT PROMISED IN THOSE DAYS AFTER PARKLAND. LISTEN TO THIS.>>WE’RE GOING TO BE VERY STRONG ON BACKGROUND CHECKS. WE’LL BE DOING VERY STRONG BACKGROUND CHECKS.>>THAT’S WHAT HE SAID AFTER PARKLAND. IT’S BEEN A COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE THEN. AND NOTHING HAS HAPPENED IN TERMS OF UNIVERSAL BACKGROUND CHECKS.>>YEAH. AND I THINK WHAT WE HAVE TO REALIZE AS AMERICANS AND WHAT I’VE COME TO REALIZE IS IT’S NOT GOING TO BE THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY OR THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT IS GOING TO FIX THIS PROBLEM. IF WE LOOK BACK AT AMERICAN HISTORY, THE ONLY TIME THAT TRUE MOVEMENTS OVER THINGS THAT ARE HISTORICAL THINGS ARE POLITICAL ISSUES ABLE TO CHANGE THINGS IS WHEN WE CHANGE OUR CULTURE. WHAT WE NEED TO DO MORE THAN ANYTHING IS WE NEED TO REALIZE THAT WE CAN’T WAIT FOR DEMOCRATS TO TAKE EVERY PART OF THE GOVERNMENT TO FIX THIS PROBLEM. WE NEED PEOPLE TO GO OUT THERE AND LOOK AT THE PEACE PLAN. WE NEED PEOPLE TO GO OUT AND DO THESE THINGS. THEY REALIZE TALKING ABOUT HOW TO PREVENT FUTURE TRAGEDIES FROM HAPPENING IS NOT POLITICIZING TRAUMA. WHAT THEY’RE TALKING ABOUT IS PEACE. AND IN MY OPINION, PEACE IS NOT POLITICAL.>>ONE OF THE THINGS THE PRESIDENT SAID THIS WEEK IN A CRAZY RHETORICAL WEEK THAT GOT YOUR ATTENTION, FRED. YOU SAID THAT HE SAID, QUOTE, ALL VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE LOVE HIM. AND DID YOU WANT TO FACT CHECK THAT THIS MORNING?>>I DO WANT TO TALK TO THE PRESIDENT. AND YOU SHOWED THE CLIP ON AFTER PARKLAND. MY DAUGHTER DIED IN PARKLAND. I’LL LIVE WITH THAT EVERY SECOND OF EVERY DAY. AND HE LIED TO ME AND ALL THE OTHER VICTIMS THAT DAY AND HE’S DONE IT AGAIN SINCE THE OTHER MASS SHOOTINGS. WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR A BRIEF SECOND AND THEN HE SAYS, BUT I SPOKE TO IN THE NRA AND HE WALKS AWAY FROM IT. SO MR. PRESIDENT, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING. I DON’T CARE ABOUT YOU. THIS IS NOT ABOUT LOVE OR HATE. I DON’T CARE ABOUT YOU. I CARE ABOUT WHAT YOU DO. AND I HATE WHAT YOU ARE DOING. BECAUSE YOU ARE USING THE PAIN OF THE VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE TO SPEAK IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS YOU TO LOOK LIKE YOU’RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING BUT ONLY TO PLAY GAMES WITH THEIR EMOTIONS AND NOT DO IT IN THE END. I DON’T CARE ABOUT YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, BUT I HATE WHAT YOU DO. IT IS TIME FOR YOU TO STOP TALKING ON THIS TOPIC UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO GIVE MITCH McCONNELL THE GO AHEAD TO OPEN UP THE SENATE AND ACTUALLY TAKE ON LEGISLATION. ENOUGH. STAY OUT OF THIS. KEEP YOUR MOUTH JUST QUIET UNLESS YOU’RE READY TO BE A SERIOUS PARTICIPANT IN THIS CONVERSATION. JUST STOP.>>HOW IS HE USING YOUR PAIN?>>YOU KNOW WHAT? EVERY TIME HE PUTS HIMSELF ON CAMERA WITH A PHOTO OP LIKE HE DID YESTERDAY TO TALK ABOUT IT, TO SAY PEOPLE LIKE ME LOVE HIM, NO WE DON’T. NOW, I’M NOT GOING TO SPEAK FOR EVERY FAMILY IN PARKLAND, BUT I’M NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO FEELS THIS WAY. AND I GET TO MEET VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. OKAY? DON’T TALK ABOUT DOING THE RIGHT THING ONLY TO GO ON RECORD AS SAYING I SAID I’LL DO IT. 90% OF THE FAMILIES AND THE AMERICANS WHO VOTE WANT BACKGROUND CHECKS, MR. PRESIDENT. STOP TALKING, STOP TALKING ABOUT LOVE. THIS IS NOT ABOUT YOU. DON’T WORRY ABOUT HOW PEOPLE THINK ABOUT YOU. DO THE RIGHT THING. GET IT DONE. TELL MITCH McCONNELL TO OPEN UP THE SENATE GRAVEYARD. LET’S GET THIS DONE. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.>>DAVID, DO YOU HAVE A SENSE OF WHY THIS IS HAPPENING IN THE COUNTRY? WHY IS THIS — THE FOUR — OKAY. OF THE TEN DEADLIEST MASS SHOOTINGS IN U.S. HISTORY AND WE HAD THE DISTINCTION AS WE ALL KNOW AMONG INDUSTRIALIZED COUNTRIES FOR HAVING THIS PROBLEM, FOUR OF THEM HAVE BEEN ON PRESIDENT TRUMP’S WATCH. HERE IT IS ON YOUR SCREEN. DO YOU HAVE ANY SENSE OF WHY WE HAVE THIS PROBLEM IN THIS COUNTRY?>>BECAUSE WE LIVE IN AN INCREDIBLY DIVIDED TIME WHERE WE HAVE — I WOULD ARGUE THAT RIGHT NOW IN AMERICA, WE DON’T HAVE LEADERS. BECAUSE I WOULD ARGUE THAT LEADERS DON’T LEAD WITH FEAR. TOTALITARIANS LEAD WITH FEAR. WE NEED LEADERS THAT LEAD WE THE COURAGE TO ADDRESS THE UNKNOWN AND THE COURAGE TO EXPLORE AND EMBRACE THE CURIOSITY OF THE UNKNOWN. WE NEED LEADERS THAT TELL AMERICANS NOT TO FEAR THOSE THAT DON’T LOOK THEM BUT TO ACTUALLY TALK TO THEM AND LEARN TO LOVE WHAT YOU DON’T KNOW. AND THE REASON WHY THESE THINGS CONTINUE TO HAPPEN IS BECAUSE IF YOU CONTINUE TO TELL SOMEONE THAT THEY ARE THE ENEMY, THIS PERSON THAT ISN’T LIKE YOU IS THE ENEMY AND THEY HAVE EASY ACCESS TO GUNS, THERE’S GOING TO BE A SMALL GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE EXTREMELY VIOLENT AND ACT.>>WE’VE BEEN ON A SLIPPERY SLOPE. THE NRA LIKES TO TALK ABOUT THE SLIPPERY SLOPE IF WE DO ANYTHING. WE’VE BEEN ON A SLIPPERY SLOPE. I’LL JUST GO BACK TO 2003. IT STARTED BEFORE THEN, BUT IN 2003 JAMIE WAS BORN. 2004 ASSAULT WEAPONS BAN ENDED. IN 2005, PLACA WAS PASSED. THEN IN THE YEARS SINCE, STAND YOUR GROUND LAWS AND OTHER LAWS THAT MADE IT EASIER FOR THOSE WHO INTEND TO KILL OTHERS TO HAVE THE WEAPONS TO DO SO. NOT JUST GUNS, AMMUNITION AS WELL. AND SO YOU WANT TO KNOW WHY MORE PEOPLE ARE DYING FROM GUN VIOLENCE? IT’S BECAUSE IN THIS COUNTRY, WE’VE BEEN ON A SLIPPERY SLOPE OF WEAKENING LAWS THAT HAVE ALLOWED THOSE WHO WANT TO KILL THE MEANS TO DO SO.>>WE’RE OUT OF TIME, BUT I DON’T WANT TO MISS OUT ON THE OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHAT YOU’RE DOING. YOU DO HAVE A PLAN. I THINK WE HAVE A SCREEN OF ALL THE TENETS OF IT.>>MARCH FOR OUR LIVES TALKED TO RESEARCHERS AND PEOPLE AROUND THE COUNTRY THAT WORK AROUND GUN VIOLENCE PREVENTION AND MADE A PLAN BY SURVIVORS AND RESEARCHERS SO THERE DON’T HAVE TO BE SURVIVORS IN THE FUTURE OF GUN VIOLENCE. FOR THOSE THAT WANT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT, EVEN IF YOU DON’T AGREE WITH EVERYTHING OR ANYTHING I’VE EVER SAID, I ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO LOOK AT THE PLAN. IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT CREATING STRONGER GUN LAWS. IT’S ABOUT REDUCING THE COMDEMA OF WANTING TO PULL THE TRIGGER. IT’S ABOUT MAKING US REALIZE THAT INHERENTLY THERE IS A PROBLEM WITH THE FACT THAT EVERY COMMUNITY IN THE UNITED STATES, IT IS EASIER TO ACCESS A GUN TO END YOUR OWN PAIN BECAUSE GUN SUICIDES ARE TWO-THIRDS OF GUN DEATHS THAN IT IS TO ACCESS AN AFFORDABLE, QUALITY THERAPIST.>>WHERE CAN PEOPLE FIND THAT PLAN?>>MARCHFORLIVES.COM. WE CAN’T DO THIS ALONE. WE NEED YOUR SUPPORT, DONATIONS, AND YOUR TIME. WE NEED YOU TO HELP US CAMPAIGN ON THIS AND VOTE.>>DAVID >>>SO THIS MORNING NEW NUMBERS FROM THE CONGRESSIONAL BUDGET OFFICE CONFIRM IT. THE NATIONAL DEBT AND DEFICIT, MUCH WORSE THAN THOUGHT. SO WHERE IS THE PARTY OF FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY IN TIMES LIKE THESE?>>I KNOW WHERE JOHN AVALON IS. HE HAS OUR REALITY CHECK.>>PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS BUSY PROCLAIMING HIMSELF THE CHOSEN ONE. YOU MIGHT HAVE MISSED MORE BAD NEWS IN THE FORM OF DATA. BRAND NEW CBO NUMBERS SHOWS THE BUDGET DEFICIT IS SKYROCKETING. PROJECTED TO RISE 25% OVER LAST YEAR. HEADING TO OVER $1 TRILLION NEXT YEAR. TAX REVENUES ARE — SPENDING IS IN DRUNK L SAILOR TERRITORY ADDING $1.7 TRILLION IN THE NEXT DECADE. PUT IT ANOTHER WAY, DEFICITS HAVE RISEN FROM A DECADE LOW OF 2.4% OVER OBAMA TO A PROJECTED AVERAGE 4.7% OF GDP OVER THE NEXT DECADE. REMEMBER, ALL THIS IS HAPPENING DURING THE NATION’S LONGEST ECONOMIC EXPANSION. WHEN DEFICITS SHOULD BE SHRINKING. LET’S GO BACK TO SEE WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS TRYING TO STIMULATE ITS WAY OUT OF A GLOBAL CRISIS. BACK IN FEBRUARY IN 2012, BARACK OBAMA RELEASED A $28 TRILLION BUDGET WITH A $900 BILLION DEFICIT. HE’LL TURN AMERICA INTO GREECE. THIS YEAR PRESIDENT TRUMP PROPOSED HIGHER SPENDING AND A BIGGER DEFICIT THAN BACK WHEN HE WARNED OBAMA WOULD LEAD US TO BANKRUPTCY. FOR SOME SENATORS IT’S ABSURD. FROM EX, GEORGIA’S DAVID PERDUE WHO RESORTED TO MAGICAL THINKING WHEN HE VOTED TO INCREASE SPENDING AFTER VOTING FOR THE TAX CUTS. HE PENNED AN OP-ED THAT A VOTE AGAINST THE BUDGET WAS A VOTE TO INCREASE SPENDING WHILE HE TOLD AN EDITORIAL BOARD THAT IT WAS MORE THAN PAID FOR BY THE TAX CUT. THAT’S JUST NOT TRUE. AND OF COURSE THE BILL TO INCREASE SPENDING DID, IN FACT, INCREASE SPENDING. SENATOR PERDUE IS A SYMPTOM OF A LARGER PROBLEM. THE ABANDONMENT OF FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY BY REPUBLICANS WHILE RAILING AGAINST THE FISCAL IT BEARS REPEATING THE LAST TWO PRESIDENTS TO SHRINK THE DEFICITS WERE CHENEY AND OBAMA. ALL OF US TALK ABOUT CONCERN FOR THE DEFICIT AND BUDGET HAS BEEN BOGUS FOR AS LONG AS IT’S BEEN AROUND. RIGHT NOW UNDER THE TRUMP WE HAVE NO SUCH EXCUSE OTHER THAN TO ATTEMPT. WHILE PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS TWEETING OUT A CLAIM HE WAS LIKE THE KING OF ISRAEL, CLEARLY THE ONLY CROWN HE CAN CLAIM IS THE ONE HE CAN LAY ON HIMSELF SOME TIME AGO, THE KING OF DEBT. THIS TIME THOUGH THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER IS GOING TO HAVE TO PICK UP THE DEBT.>>>THIS WEEK’S FIGHT OVER GREENLAND IS JUST THE LATEST EXAMPLE OF THE>>>THE PRIME MINISTER’S STATEMENT THAT IT WAS ABSURD, THAT IT WAS AN ABSURD IDEA WAS NASTY. I THOUGHT IT WAS AN INAPPROPRIATE STATEMENT. WE CAN’T TREAT THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA THE WAY THEY TREATED US UNDER PRESIDENT OBAMA.>>ALL RIGHT, PRESIDENT TRUMP, AGAIN ATTACKING THE DANISH PRIME MINISTER AFTER SHE MADE IT CLEAR THAT GREENLAND IS NOT FOR SALE. DENMARK, WE SHOULD NOTE, IS A LONG TIME U.S. ALLY AND A NATO MEMBER. JOINING ME NOW IS GENERAL WESLEY CLARK, NOW A SENIOR FELLOW AT THE UCLA BERKELEY CENTER FOR INTERNATIONAL RELATIONS. THE BIG PICTURE TO ME IS THE PRESIDENT ATTACKING DENMARK IN AN INSANE 24-HOUR PERIOD. DENMARK AN ALLY THAT’S SACRIFICED BLOOD IN EFFORTS WE’VE HAD AROUND THE GLOBE, ATTACKING DENMARK THE VERY SAME DAY HE ALLOWS RUSSIA TO BE ALLOWED BACK INTO THE G7. ATTACKING ALLIES, CODDLING ENEMIES. AND WE’VE SEEN IT BEFORE. SO WHAT IS THE WORLD TO TAKE FROM THIS?>>THIS IS NOT THE WAY TO CONDUCT DIPLOMACY. THE UNITED STATES DOES HAVE IMPORTANT INTERESTS IN THE ARCTIC, GREENLAND FIGURES IN THOSE INTERESTS. AND THE UNITED STATES SHOULD HAVE WORKED QUIETLY BEHIND THE SCENES WITH GREENLAND AS WE’VE DONE IN THE PAST TO BUFFER AMERICAN OPPORTUNITIES THERE, TO BE SURE THE RUSSIANS AND THE CHINESE AREN’T ENCROACHING, WHICH THEY ARE ELSEWHERE IN THE ARCTIC. AND WE SHOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THE OVERALL STRENGTH OF OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL OF OUR ALLIES IN EUROPE. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THREATENING GERMANY WITH TARIFFS ON AUTOMOBILE PRODUCTION WHICH IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST FACTORS IN THE GERMAN ECONOMY. AND WHEN WE DISPARAGE THE PRIME MINISTER OF DENMARK, WE’RE WEAKENING NATO. WE’RE PLAYING INTO PUTIN’S HANDS. NOW, WHAT MY EUROPEAN FRIENDS TELL ME IS THEY’RE NOT SURPRISED BY THIS ANYMORE. THEY’VE SEEN THE PRESIDENT. HE DOESN’T PAY ATTENTION TO THEIR POLITICS, DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THE PRESSURES THEY’RE UNDER, AND REALLY THIS IS JUST EFFECTIVELY.TO CONDUCT DIPLOMAC- IF YOU LOOK AT HIS RECORD AROUND THE WORLD SINCE HE’S BEEN PRESIDENT, WE’VE GOT THE EFFORT IN NORTH KOREA WHICH HAD STALLED OUT BECAUSE IN MY PERSONAL OPINION HE OVERPERSONALIZED IT. AND IF HE USED THE PROFESSIONAL DIPLOMATIC CHANNELS WE MIGHT HAVE ACHIEVED A DEFINITION OF WHAT DENUCLEARIZATION WAS AND BE MAKING PROGRESS. INSTEAD WHAT’S HAPPENING IS THERE’S ENORMOUS PRESSURE ON THE GOVERNMENT OF SOUTH KOREA TO MAKE ACCOMMODATION WITH THE NORTH. THE NORTH IS CONTINUING ITS MILITARIZATION PROGRAMS AND SOUTH KOREA AND JAPAN ARE DRIFTING APART. WE’VE GOT PROBLEMS WITH IRAN, NATO ALLIES ARE — >>WHAT’S THE LONG-TERM IMPACT, THOUGH, ON TREATING YOUR FRIENDS LIKE THIS?>>THE EUROPEANS TELL ME THAT THEY CAN MAKE IT THROUGH FOR THE REST OF THIS ADMINISTRATION AND NATO WILL BE OKAY. AND IT CAN BE RECOVERED. THEY’RE NOT SURE WHAT HAPPENS IF PRESIDENT TRUMP IS RE-ELECTED. AND I DON’T WANT TO POLITICIZE THIS, AND I’M NOT COMING ON THIS AS SOMEONE WITH A POLITICAL ORIENTATION. IT BREAKS MY HEART TO SEE OUR MILITARY, OUR DIPLOMATS ALL AROUND THE WORLD TO SEE THE CONFUSION AND DISORDER AT THE VERY TOP THAT UNDERCUTS THEIR EFFORTS.>>I WANT TO WEIGH IN ON SOMETHING THE PRESIDENT SAID YESTERDAY. HE WAS SPEAKING TO A VETERANS GROUP AND HE JOKED. HE JOKED ABOUT AWARDING THE MEDAL OF HONOR TO HIMSELF. SO LISTEN TO THIS.>>NOTHING LIKE THE MEDAL OF HONOR. I WANTED ONE BUT THEY TOLD ME I DON’T QUALIFY. I SAY CAN I GIVE IT TO MYSELF ANYWAY, THEY SAID I DON’T THINK THAT’S A GOOD IDEA.>>ALL RIGHT, HE WAS JOKING AND THERE WAS LAUGHTER IN THE ROOM, BUT WE HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE INSIDE THE MILITARY WHO SAY, LOOK IS, THIS ISN’T SOMETHING TO JOKE ABOUT. TO BE AWARDED THE MEDAL OF HONOR IT’S ONE OF THE MOST EMOTIONAL HONORS YOU CAN RECEIVE IN THE MILITARY BECAUSE IT’S ALMOST GUARANTEED YOU HAD FRIENDS DIE IN THE PROCESS.>>IT REALLY IS DISRESPECTFUL TO THE VETERANS. VETERANS ARE VERY RESPECTFUL TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES WHOEVER HE IS, AND THAT COMMENT WAS SORT AN OFF END COMMENT YOU MIGHT HEAR SOMEONE MAKING TO THEIR SPOUSE. I WORKED SO HARD ON THE LAW AND DESERVE THE MEDAL OF HONOR OUT THERE, IT’S SO HOT AND UNCOMFORTABLE. IT’S LIKE A JOKE AND THEY DON’T MEAN IT THAT WAY. WHEN YOU DO IT IN FRONT OF A VETERANS AND IT’S PLAYED OVER THE NATION AND I AND THE OTHER PEOPLE WHO SERVE — WE ALL KNOW PEOPLE WHO WON THE MEDAL OF HONOR, MANY WHO DIED. IT’S A VERY SPECIAL THING. THOSE MEN WHO WIN THE MEDAL OF HONOR, THEY’RE MARKED FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. AND NOT ONLY IN PUBLIC ADULATION BUT EMOTIONALLY. PEOPLE IN UNIFORM RESPECT THE OFFICE BUT HE DIDN’T SERVE IN VIETNAM, HE’S NEVER BEEN UNDER FIRE. DOESN’T REALLY UNDERSTAND THE TEAMWORK, THE SACRIFICE, THE LOYALTY AND THAT PEOPLE WEARING THAT MEDAL OF HAUNLER REPRESENT. SO IT WAS A HURTFUL COMMENT ACTUALLY.>>GENERAL, THANKS FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. I APPRECIATE IT.>>THANK YOU.>>AND THANK YOU TO OUR INTERNATIONAL VIEWERS FOR WATCHING. FOR YOU “CNN NEWSROOM” IS NEXT. FOR OUR U.S. VIEWERS “NEW DAY” CONTINUES RIGHT NOW.>>>ALL RIGHT, GOOD MORNING, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO YOUR NEW DAY. IT IS THURSDAY 8:00, IN THE EAST. AND EVEN BY MR. TRUMP’S STANDARDS THE LATEST BIZARRE STATEMENTS ARE OUTRAGEOUS. YESTERDAY WHEN ASKED ABOUT HIS TRADE WAR WITH CHINA THE PRESIDENT DROPPED THIS DOOZY.>>I AM THE CHOSEN ONE.>>ALL RIGHT, THAT WASN’T THE ONLY TIME YESTERDAY HE SUGGESTED HE IS THE SAVIOR. RIGHT BEFORE THAT HE PRAISED AND RETWEETED A RIGHT WING CONSPIRACY THEORIST WHO CALLED MR. TRUMP THE KING OF ISRAEL. THE PRESIDENT AGAIN QUESTIONED THE LOYALTY OF AMERICAN JEWS REPEATING THE SAME ANTI-SEMITIC TROPE HE’S CRITICIZED DEMOCRATS FOR, AND THERE WAS MUCH MORE YESTERDAY BUT THIS IS ONLY A THREE HOUR PROGRAM.>>AGAIN “THE NEW YORK TIMES” REPORTS THIS MORNING THERE IS FEAR WITHIN THE PRESIDENT’S LARGER POLITICAL WORLD ABOUT WHAT’S GOING ON HERE. “THE TIMES” WRITES SOME FORMER TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS SAY THEY WERE INCREASINGLY WORRIED ABOUT THE PRESIDENT’S BEHAVIOR SUGGESTING IT STEMS FROM RISING PRESSURE ON MR. TRUMP AS THE ECONOMY SEEMS MORE WORRISOME AND NEXT YEAR’S ELECTION APPROACHES. THERE ARE TROUBLING SIGNS FOR THE ECONOMY THIS MORNING. THE LABOR DEPARTMENT SAYS A HALF MILLION FEWER JOBS WERE ADDED IN 2018 AND EARLY 2019. THERE WAS ANOTHER YIELD CURVE INVERSION ON WEDNESDAY, AND THE BUDGET DEFICIT IS ON PATH TO TOP $1 TRILLION. JOINING US NOW, CNN POLITICAL ANALYST, MAGGIE HABERMAN, WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT FOR “THE NEW YORK TIMES” WHO WAS THE AUTHOR OF THAT QUOTE WE JUST READ ALONGSIDE PETER BAKER. SO TELL US MORE ABOUT THAT. FORMER TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS SAY THEY’RE SEEING BEHAVIOR THAT WORRIES THEM.>>THERE’S THIS CONSTANT QUESTION THAT HOVERS AROUND COMMENTARY ABOUT THE PRESIDENT THESE DAYS IS HAS HE CHANGED, IS HE DIFFERENT? I THINK WE’RE SEEING A LOT OF WHAT WE SAW IN THE CAMPAIGN. I’VE SPOKEN WITH A BUNCH OF FORMER OFFICIALS AND SENIOR OFFICIALS IN THE LAST WEEK OR SO, ALL OF WHOM WHO DISAGREE AND SAY THEY BELIEVE THIS IS AN ESCALATION OF SORT OF HIS MORE ERRATIC BEHAVIOR OR HIS MORE EXTREME BEHAVIOR. AND THEY ATTRIBUTE IT TO INCREASING STRESS IN THE JOB AS HE FACES RE-ELECTION. I DON’T THINK WE CAN IGNORE THE FACT THAT LITERALLY EVERY DAY FOR HIM NOW IS TIED UP IN WERE YG ABOUT WHETHER HE’S GOING TO GET REELECTED NEXT YEAR. FOR ALL THE QUESTION OF WHETHER HE LIKES THE JOB, WE KNOW HE LIKES TO WIN. I THINK WE’VE HEARD PREVIOUSLY FROM FORMER ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS THEY’VE BEEN CONCERNED ABOUT HIS BEHAVIOR. WITH YOU LEAVE, YOU SUDDENLY BECOME A LOT MORE AWARE OF THINGS EITHER YOU TUNED OUT OR IT LOOKS DIFFERENT FROM THE OUTSIDE AND I’M NOT SURE WHICH ONE TO CREDIT IT WITH.>>SO WHAT IS IT THAT THEY THINK — >>HE WEPT FROM BEING INCREDIBLY TO INCREDIBLY CRITICAL OF HIM. THEY DO ATTRIBUTE IT TO PRIMARILY THE ECONOMY. THEY ALSO CONTRIBUTE TO CANDIDLY THE CHANGE IN STAFF AROUND HIM. LOOK, THERE’S ALWAYS BEEN THIS KWELGZ OF HAS HE BEEN MORE WILLING TO DO CERTAIN THINGS ON POLICY OR A NUMBER OF OTHER ISSUES BECAUSE CERTAIN PEOPLE PEOPLE LEFT. I’VE TENDED TO REJECT THAT ARGUMENT AND IT’S MORE HE DOESN’T WANT GUARDRAILS AROUND HIM AND HE GRINDS THEM DOWN. THE REALITY IS THERE’S NOT A TON OF STAFF LEFT, AND THOSE THERE IN THE BUILDING ARE NOT DOING A TON TO TELL HIM NO. I DON’T THINK THERE’S A SINCE MICK MULVANEY IS TRYING TO DO WHAT GENERAL KELLY DID FOR INSTANCE, WHICH HE’S NOT REALLY MANAGING THE PRESIDENT’S BEHAVIOR. THE ONE DATA POINT A FORMER OFFICIAL POINTED TO ME IN PARTICULAR WAS THAT THE TWEETS HAD GOTTEN A LOT WORSE. AND THEIR POINT WAS YOU WOULD NOT HAVE SEEN SOME OF THESE TWEETS IN 2017. IT’S CERTAINLY TRUE IN 2018 WE SAW AN KPARBATION ABOUT THE TWEETS ABOUT ROBERT MUELLER, WHEN HE’D BEEN HANDS OFF.>>YESTERDAY THERE WERE A FEW THINGS AND I DON’T KNOW IF IT WAS MORE OF THE SAME OR DIFFERENT OR MORE ERRATIC OR LESS ERRATIC, THEY WERE NOTABLE TO ME. WHICH IS ONE THE 24-HOUR REVERSIBLE ON THE PAYROLL TAX, YESTERDAY NO WE’RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT, GUNS WHICH IS SOMETHING WE’VE DISCUSSED HERE. I DON’T FULLY BELIEVE HE’S GOING TO BE SUPPORTIVE OF BACKGROUND CHECKS, BUT YESTERDAY HE CLAIMED HE WAS INTERESTED IN BACKGROUND CHECKS AGAIN, EXPANDED BACKGROUND CHECKS WHERE YESTERDAY HE HAD WALKED AWAY FROM IT. THOSE TWO REVERSALS ARE NOTABLE AND ALSO THE LEANING COMMENTS ABOUT AMERICAN JEWS IN ISRAEL. THOSE THREE THINGS TO ME WERE WORTHY OF NOTE.>>I’D HAVE TO PICK THEM APART BECAUSE I DON’T THINK THEY’RE ALL THE SAME. IN TERMS OF BACKGROUND CHECKS, LOOK, HE KNOWS WHERE HE WANTS TO BE IN TERMS OF HIS BASE, AND I THINK HE’S TRYING TO RECONCILE HIS PREVIOUS LANGUAGE WHILE SORT OF LETTING EVERYONE HEAR WHAT THEY WANT TO HEAR. SO THAT ONE I DON’T THINK IS A HUGE SURPRISE. THE PAYROLL TAX, LOOK, I THINK THAT CUTS TO THE CORE FOR HIM WHICH IS ACKNOWLEDGING THERE ARE SIGNS OF AN ECONOMIC SLOW DOWN AND I DON’T THINK HE’S QUITE GRAPPLED WITH THAT. BUT TO YOUR POINT THAT’S ASKING A LOT TO ASK VOTERS TO PRETEND THEY DIDN’T HEAR WHAT HE SAID THE DAY BEFORE. IN TERMS OF HIS REMARKS ABOUT DISLOYALTY TO ISRAEL, THE SILENCE FROM HIS MAIN PROTECTORS AT SAY THE REPUBLICAN JEWISH COALITION A DAY EARLIER, HE MEANT DISLOYALTY TO THEMSELVES. HE DIDN’T MEAN DIZ LOYALTY TO ISRAEL, BECAUSE THERE IS AN ANTI-SEMITIC TROPE THAT TRAFFICS ON THE IDEA AS YOU KNOW OF JEWS BEING MORE LOYAL TO THEIR RELIGION THAN TO WHERE THEY LIVE. THE ARGUMENT I’VE HEARD FROM PEOPLE AROUND THE PRESIDENT THIS IS DIFFERENT, SAY, THAN WHAT HE AND OTHERS CRITICIZED CONGRESSWOMAN OMAR AND TLAIB FOR. AND THERE ARE A LOT OF DEMOCRATS UPSET TOO WITH WHAT THEY SAID. I THINK IT WOULD BEHOOVE HIM TO EXPLAIN EXACTLY WHAT HE’S TALKING ABOUT, BUT I DON’T UNDERSTAND HOW PEOPLE CAN KEEP INSISTING HE LITERALLY DIDN’T SAY WHAT HE SAID.>>HE SAID I MEANT DISLOYALTY, I THINK HE SAID TO ISRAEL. YEAH, HE WAS VERY SPECIFIC.>>RJC WAS PRETTY QUIET YESTERDAY.>>WE JUST HAD FORMER CONGRESSMAN JOE WALSH ON, CONSERVATIVE TEA PARTY GUY WHO TOLD US HE’S VERY CLOSE TO BEING A PRIMARY CHALLENGER FOR DONALD TRUMP BECAUSE OF ALL THE DISTURBING THINGS HE NOW SEES WITH CLEAR EYES THAN PREVIOUSLY. DOES THAT GIVE INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE ANY INDIGESTION, HEARTBURN WHEN THEY THINK THERE MIGHT BE PEOPLE POPPING UP WHO MIGHT BE CHALLENGING HIM?>>I THINK WHAT THEY’RE CONCERNED ABOUT IS NOT THE JOE WALSH OR ANY OF THESE CANDIDATES DECLARED OR POSSIBLY DECLARING LIKE BILL WELD WHO IS RUNNING WHO’S HAD A LOT OF TROUBLE GETTING HEADLINES. I DON’T THINK THEY’RE CONCERNED THEY CAN MAKE INROADS. ESPECIALLY THE POLITICAL DIRECTOR AT THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN WORKING FOR A YEAR TO TIGHTEN THEIR GRIP ON THESE STATE PARTIES TO MAKE IT HARD FOR THESE PRIMARY CHALLENGERS TO AMASS DELEGATES THAT THE CONVENTION. YOU’RE REALLY JUST DOING IT TO BE ON TV AND GET A RISE OUT OF THE PRESIDENT. BECAUSE YOU’VE SEEN HOW HE’S HANDLED FOR INSTANCE ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI OVER THE LAST WEEK. YOU WOULD THINK ANTHONY SCARAMUCCI WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE OF POLICY BASED ON THE MINE SHARE THE PRESIDENT HAS DEVOTED TO IT AT LEAST ON HIS TWITTER FEED AND CONVERSATIONS. I THINK THEY’RE WORRIED SOMEONE LIKE JOE WALSH WHO DOES HAVE A FACILITY WITH CONSERVATIVE TALK RADIO WILL GAIN ATTENTION. ARGUING AGAINST WALSH TAKING OFF, THERE’S A LONG LITANY OF TWEETS, AMONG THEM HIS PRO-TRUMP TWEETS IN 2016, ATTACKS ON JOURNALISTS WHO WERE JUST COVERING THE PRESIDENT STRAIGHT DURING THE CAMPAIGN WHEN I WOULD ARGUE THE PRESIDENT WAS PRETTY SIMILAR TO HOW HE IS NOW AND JOE WALSH HAS NEVER EXPLAINED THE CONVERSION AND HE HAS A NUMBER OF CONTROVERSIAL TWEETS.>>JOE WALSH IS GOING TO HAVE TO SPEND A LOT OF TIME EXPLAINING JOE WALSH IN ADDITION TO ATTACKING THE PRESIDENT. IT’S INTERESTING THERE IS CONCERN WITHIN THE WHITE HOUSE THAT THE PRESIDENT WON’T BE ABLE TO IGNORE THESE PEOPLE WHO PROBABLY CAN’T BEAT HIM.>>I THINK THERE’S ALWAYS THE CONCERN ABOUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS OR ISN’T GOING TO IGNORE BECAUSE HE TENDS TO TREAT THESE THINGS AS ONE-ON-ONE DISCUSSIONS.>>>ALL RIGHT, WE HEARD>>>ALL RIGHT, NEW CONTROVERSY SWIRLING AROUND THE PRESIDENT’S COMMENTS WHERE ONCE AGAIN HE MADE CLEAR WHAT HE THINKS ABOUT AMERICAN JEWS WHO SUPPORT THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. LISTEN.>>IN MY OPINION YOU VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT, YOU’RE BEING VERY DISLOYAL TO JEWISH PEOPLE AND YOU’RE BEING VERY DISLOYAL TO ISRAEL. AND ONLY WEAK PEOPLE WOULD SAY ANYTHING OTHER THAN THAT.>>DISLOYAL, THE IDEA OF DUAL LOYALTY. JOINING ME NOW TO DISCUSS IS DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSMAN TED DEUTSCH. CONGRESSMAN, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US. I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THIS. WHY THIS IS AN ISSUE. WHEN YOU SAY JEWS ARE BEING DISLOYAL, OR THE IDEA OF DUAL LOYALTY, WHY THAT IS CONSIDERED AN ANTI-SEMITIC TROPE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN?>>SURE, BECAUSE — THANKS FOR HAVING ME. BECAUSE THROUGHOUT THE HISTORY OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE CHARGES OF DISLOYALTY, CHARGES OF DUAL LOYALTY HAVE BEEN LEVELED AGAINST JEWISH COMMUNITIES THROUGHOUT THE WORLD. AND THOSE CHARGES IN THE CONTEXT OF THE ANTI-SEMITISM THAT EXISTS IN THOSE COUNTRIES, THOSE CHARGES OFTEN LED TO VIOLENT ATTACKS ON THOSE COMMUNITIES. WHEN THERE IS HATRED AND ANTI-SEMTIME YOU ONLY FUEL IT WHEN YOU LOB OUT THERE THOSE KIND OF ANTI-SEMTRIC TROOPS. THE LARGEST INCREASE SINCE THEY STARTED KEEPING TRACK, IT’S VERY DANGEROUS WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAYS THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT HE SAYS. AND BY THE WAY, LET’S ALSO BE CLEAR, I’M NOT GOING TO LET THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES TELL ME OR THE THREE QUARTERS OF THE JEWISH COMMUNITY IN AMERICA WHO CHOSE NOT TO VOTE FOR HIM, THAT WE ARE IN ANY WAY DISLOYAL TO HIM, TO ISRAEL, TO OUR COMMUNITY OR TO ANYONE ELSE. HE SHOULD JUST KNOCK IT OFF. IT’S DANGEROUS, AND HE SHOULD KNOW THAT.>>I WANT TO MAKE CLEAR AGAIN THE IDEA OF DUAL LOYALTY OR DISLOYALTY IS NO SMALL THING WHEN YOU’RE TALKING ABOUT THE HISTORY. IN MANY CASES IT IS THE THING WHICH HAS CAUSED SO MUCH PAIN AND SUFFERING OVER TIME. YOU RAISE ANOTHER POINT, THOUGH, WHICH IS THAT AMERICAN JEWS SUPPORT TOWARDS ISRAEL, CAN YOU BE CRITICAL OF ISRAEL WITHOUT BEING ANTI-SEMITIC?>>WELL, OF COURSE ISRAEL’S A GREAT ALLY AND A CRITICAL ALLY OF THE UNITED STATES. AND THE U.S.-ISRAEL RELATIONSHIP HAS ALWAYS ENJOYED BIPARTISAN SUPPORT AS IT SHOULD. ARE THERE TIMES THERE ARE PARTISAN DIFFERENCES, SURE. BUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO DO HERE IS INOCULATE HIMSELF AGAINST HIS WILLINGNESS TO USE THESE ANTI-SEMITIC TROPES, LIKE HE DID IN HIS LAST CAMPAIGN OR LIKE HE DID WHEN HE RAN ADS ALLEGING A JEWISH CONSPIRACY THAT RUNS THE WORLD. HE TRIES TO INOCULATE HIMSELF AGAINST THE THINGS THAT RILE UP THE ANTI-SEMITES IN ISRAEL BY SAYING BUT I SUPPORT ISRAEL SO, PLEASE, PLEASE, I CAN’T POSSIBLY BE USING ANTI-SEMITISM. YOU CAN’T DO THAT. YOU HAVE TO TREAT THEM DIFFERENTLY. AND THE FACT IS THERE’S STRONG BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR ISRAEL. IT’S BEEN CRITICAL TO THE U.S.-ISRAEL RELATIONSHIP AND THE PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO TURN THIS INTO A POLITICAL ISSUE, WHICH IS QUITE FRANKLY BAD FOR THE UNITED STATES, BAD FOR ISRAEL AND BAD FOR THE U.S.’ RELATIONSHIP.>>IN OTHER WORDS ESSAYING BEING PROISRAEL DOESN’T INOCULATE YOURSELF OF CHARGES OF ANTI-SEMITISM, CORRECT?>>CLEARLY NOT. AND LET’S BE CLEAR ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE. IF YOU OR I HAD AN UNCLE WHO WENT ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND STARTED MAKING CLAIMS OR TWEETING CLAIMS ABOUT BEING THE KING OF ISRAEL AND THE SECOND COMING AND THEN WENT OUT INTO PUBLIC AND TALKED ABOUT BEING THE CHOSEN ONE, YOU KNOW WHAT WE WOULD DO? WE WOULD GATHER OUR FAMILY MEMBERS AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO HAVE AN INTERVENTION BECAUSE THERE’S SOMETHING CLEARLY WRONG THERE. I DON’T UNDERSTAND WHY MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES WHO ARE ELECTED OFFICIALS REMAIN SILENT WHEN THE PRESIDENT DOES THIS SORT OF OUTRAGEOUS — THE SORT OF OUTRAGEOUS THINGS WE’VE SEEN OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS.>>CONGRESSMAN, WE TALKED TO YOU SO MUCH AFTER THE PARKLAND SHOOTING SO I DO WANT TO ASK YOU ONE QUESTION ABOUT GUNS TODAY. THE PRESIDENT HASN’T MADE CLEAR EXACTLY WHERE HE STANDS ON EXPANDED BACKGROUND CHECKS. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH HE’S NOT IN FAVOR OF EXPANDING THEM. CAN I ASK YOU WHAT EXPANDING THEM IN YOUR MIND WOULD DO?>>SURE, IT’S VERY SIMPLE. IF SOMEONE WANTS TO PURCHASE A GUN AT A GUN STORE, THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH A FEDERAL BACKGROUND CHECK. THEY SHOULD BE SUBJECT TO THAT SAME BACKGROUND CHECK IF THEY BUY A GUN AT A GUN SHOW OR IF THEY BUY THE GUN ONLINE. THAT’S WHAT WE’RE TRYING TO DO. IT’S SIMPLE, NOT COMPLICATED. I JUST WISH THAT THE PRESIDENT WOULD STOP TALKING TO THE MILLIONAIRE LOBBYISTS FOR THE GUN LOBBY AND WOULD INSTEAD START TALKING TO THE FAMILIES WHO HAVE SUFFERED LOSS, PEOPLE LIKE FRED WHO WERE ON YOUR SHOW EARLIER TODAY. IF HE WOULD TALK TO THE PEOPLE FROM PARKLAND AND EL PASO AND DAYTON AND GILROY AND PULSE AND LAS VEGAS, HE WOULD UNDERSTAND WHY IF WE CAN PREVENT EVEN ONE SHOOTING, EVEN ONE, IT’S WORTH DOING. SO YESTERDAY HE LEFT THE DOOR OPEN. I’M GOING TO GO WITH THE PRESIDENT TRUMP OF YESTERDAY, AND I KNOW THAT I SPEAK FOR MY DEMOCRATIC COLLEAGUES IF HE’S SERIOUS ABOUT TALKING ABOUT IT, ALL OF US ARE WILLING TO GET ON THE PHONE TODAY. WE NEED TO PASS BACKGROUND CHECK AND MITCH McCONNELL NEEDS TO BRING THAT BILL UP AND LET US DO IT.>>JUST ONE POINT ON INTERNET SALES, THERE ARE REQUIRED BACKGROUND CHECKS FOR THEM BUT THERE ARE WAYS AROUND IT WHICH IS SOMETHING I KNOW THIS ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO ADDRESS.>>TOO MANY LOOPHOLES.>>CONGRESSMAN, THANKS FOR BEING WITH US.>>>PRESIDENT TRUMP DECLARED HE’S THE CHOSEN ONE AND THAT WAS THE LEAST OF THE PECULIAR CLAIMS THE PRESIDENT MADE>>>IT’S BEEN AN INTERESTING 24 HOURS IF YOU’VE BEEN LISTENING TO PRESIDENT TRUMP’S RHETORIC. HERE’S AN EXAMPLE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP TALKING ABOUT THE TRADE WAR WITH CHINA.>>THIS ISN’T MY TRADE WAR. THIS IS TRADE WAR THAT SHOULD HAVE TAKEN PLACE A LONG TIME AGO BY A LOT OF OTHER PRESIDENTS. SOMEBODY HAD TO DO IT. I AM THE CHOSEN ONE. SOMEBODY HAD TO DO IT.>>ALL RIGHT, JOINING US NOW TO DISCUSS THIS AND EVERYTHING AS WE HEAD INTO 2020 IS TOM STEYER, HE IS A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AND HE LAUNCHED THE NEED TO IMPEACH INITIATIVE. MR. STEYER, GREAT TO HAVE YOU HERE ON “NEW DAY.” YOU OBVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN CALLING THE PRESIDENT UNFIT FOR A LONG TIME. I DOUBT THIS WEEK HAS CHANGED HOW YOU FEEL, BUT I DO WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT YOUR TACTIC AND WHY YOU THINK THAT RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT IS THE BEST OR MOST EFFECTIVE WAY TO BRING ALL THIS TO LIGHT BECAUSE AS OF THIS MORNING THERE ARE 22 DEMOCRATS RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. AND SO DID YOU THINK THAT NONE OF THEM COULD GET THE JOB DONE?>>WELL, ALISYN, THE REASON I DECIDED TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT WAS BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE HAVE A BROKEN GOVERNMENT THAT CORPORATIONS HAVE IN EFFECT BOUGHT OUR GOVERNMENT, AND THAT WE NEED TO RESTORE DEMOCRACY, A GOVERNMENT OF BY AND FOR THE PEOPLE, AND FOR TEN YEARS I’VE BEEN DOING IT. AND I THOUGHT WHEN I LISTENED TO THOSE DEBATES WHAT I HEARD WAS A LOT OF DISCUSSION OF WHAT WE WANTED IN A PERFECT WORLD BUT ACTUALLY NO DISCUSSION OF HOW WE’RE GOING TO GET IT. THAT IN FACT WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS BREAK THE CORPORATE STRANGLEHOLD ON OUR DEMOCRACY TO GET ANY OF THOSE IMPORTANT POLICY CHOICES ACCOMPLISHED. I WAS VERY SCARED WHAT WE’RE GOING TO DO IS TALK A LOT OF POLICY AND A LOT OF THEORY BUT IN FACT NO ONE WAS GOING TO TAKE ON THE FACT OF ACTUALLY ACCOMPLISHING WHAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED. IT’S THE CRITICAL THING TO TALK ABOUT IN 2020.>>WELL, SPEAKING OF BUYING GOVERNMENT, YOU’VE BEEN ACCUSED BY SOME OF THE DEMOCRATS OF BUYING YOUR WAY INTO THIS RACE. THEY’RE SORT OF SUGGESTING THEY’RE DOING THE SHOE LEATHER WORK AND YOU’VE KIND OF LEAPFROGGED YOUR WAY GIVEN THAT YOU ARE A BILLIONAIRE. HERE’S WHAT STEVE BULLOCK, THE GOVERNOR OF MONTANA AND ANOTHER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE TWEETED. THE DNC DONOR REQUIREMENTS CREATED A SITUATION IN WHICH BILL YAN AIRS CAN BUY THEIR WAY ONTO THE DEBATE STAGE AND CAMPAIGNS ARE FORCED TO SFEND BILLIONS CHASING DONORS NOT TALKING DIRECTLY TO VOTERS. WHAT’S YOUR RESPONSE?>>I’D SAY THIS. FOR TEN YEARS I’VE BEEN THE PERSON AS AN OUTSIDER TAKING ON CORPORATIONS AND BUILDING THE GRASS ROOTS. IF YOU LOOK AT THE ORGANIZATION THAT I STARTED NEXT JGEN, AMERICA, WE’VE GOTTED ON LITERALLY TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOORS. WE’VE REGISTERED MILLIONS OF AMERICANS AND IN 2018 JUST LAST YEAR WE DID THE LARGEST YOUTH VOTER MOBILIZATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY. FOR TEN YEARS I’VE BEEN TAKING ON CORPORATIONS AT THE BALLOT BOX AND WINNING. AND THAT’S WHAT WE NEED NOW, A MESSAGE TO AMERICANS WE CAN ACCOMPLISH WHAT WE NEED TO ACCOMPLISH. AND FOR TEN YEARS I’VE BEEN THAT PERSON AS AN OUTSIDER WHO’S DONE IT.>>IF YOU DON’T MAKE THAT SEPTEMBER DEBATE STAGE, WHAT’S YOUR NEXT PLAN?>>I WILL MAKE THE SEPTEMBER DEBATE STAGE.>>HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT?>>IF YOU LOOK AT THE POLLS THAT THE DNC DOESN’T ACCEPT IN THE FOUR EARLY PRIMARY STATES A POLL CAME OUT THIS WEEK THAT HAD ME AT 7% ON AVERAGE BETWEEN THOSE FOUR STATES. THE RULE OF THUMB IS TO BE AT 2%. SO I SAY IF ANYBODY DOES A POLL, I’M IN.>>ALL RIGHT, WE SHALL SEE. WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU WILL HAVE THAT DATA?>>I DON’T KNOW. WHAT I KNOW IS THIS, ALISYN. WE ARE GOING OUT AND TALKING DIRECTLY TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THERE IS A RESPONSE, A POSITIVE RESPONSE. THERE IS A MESSAGE HERE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR, AND THAT’S ACTUALLY WHAT THE CAMPAIGN IS ABOUT. DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO SAY THAT PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR THAT THEY THINK IS IMPORTANT AND THEY THINK IS DIFFERENT? AND THE FACT IS, WE DO.>>YOU KNOW, I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE UP AGAINST BECAUSE YOU HAVE TALKED ABOUT IMPEACHING THE PRESIDENT, OBVIOUSLY THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED. WE HAD A GREAT REPORTER ON EARLIER THIS AT THE ROLLING STONE AND HAS A GREAT ARTICLE OUT THIS WEEK ABOUT HOW POPULAR PRESIDENT TRUMP IS. AND HE GOES TO THESE RALLIES — BUT PRESIDENT TRUMP GETS A ROCK STAR RECEPTION. AND IN FACT WHAT HE WRITES IS THE MOST COMMON REMARK YOU MAER FROM TRUMP VOTERS IS THAT HE’S RELATABLE AND ISN’T PHONY. BLUE STATE AUDIENCES TEMPTED TO HOWL AT THIS SHOULD TRY TO UNDERSTAND THIS PHENOMENON BECAUSE IT SPEAK TO A LEGITIMATE PROBLEM DEMOCRATS HAVE. LESS POPULAR, SOCIALISM, PRIVILEGE CHECKING AND THE WORLD ENDING IN TEN YEARS. BASELY HE’S SAYING THAT PERHAPS YOU AND OTHERS ARE UNDERESTIMATING THE POWER OF PRESIDENT TRUMP.>>ALISYN, CAN I RESPOND TO THAT, PLEASE?>>YEAH, PLEASE.>>LET ME SAY THIS. THE BIGGEST FACT IN AMERICAN POLITICS IS THAT FOUR OUT OF FIVE AMERICANS BELIEVE THAT CORPORATIONS BOUGHT DEMOCRACY. I THINK WHAT THEY’RE RESPONDING TO WAS HIS ATTACK ON THE ESTABLISHMENT FOR DISRESPECTING AND PAYING NO ATTENTION TO THEM. AND IN FACT THAT IS WHAT 4 OUT OF 5 AMERICANS ACROSS THE SPECTRUM, DEMOCRATS, REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDENTS, BELIEVE. THAT’S THE WHOLE POINT OF MY CAMPAIGN. THE GOVERNMENT HAS FAILED IN WASHINGTON, D.C., AND IT’S BEEN BOUGHT BY CORPORATIONS. MR. TRUMP HAD THE RIGHT ANALYSIS, BUT HIS SOLUTIONS ARE ABSOLUTELY TERRIBLE. YOU STARTED THIS SECTION BY QUOTING HIM AS TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY ELSE’S TRADE WAR. LET’S FACE IT, IT’S HIS TRADE WAR. HE’S A FAILED PRESIDENT. HIS ACTUAL POLICIES ARE DISASTROUS. BUT THAT DOESN’T MEAN HIS ORIGINAL AFLALSIS AND HIS ABILITY TO RELATE TO PEOPLE AND TALK ABOUT THAT IS DISASTROUS. I DON’T UNDERESTIMATE HIM AT ALL. HE WAS ABSOLUTELY ON POINT, HE JUST DIDN’T

74 thoughts on “Obama Can’t Stop LAUGHING for Trump Repeatedly Attacks He to Denfend his AdminisTration

  1. Trump is revealing his potential being incompetent. Yes he's always been that way. HELLO!!! He's a con and when you run out of tricks that is what you get….

  2. Again, nice try CNN. It’s called humor. President Trump is actually mocking the democrats ability to accomplish anything. CNN can spin things anyway they want. We will still vote for trump in 2020, and he will win!

  3. I still cannot bring myself to think how the americans can still can have stupid trump as their leader.

  4. Why are media giggling and laughing at Trump's demented behavior. We all should demonstrate disapproval and disdain for this dangerous dolt. Let's giggle with glee and dance in the streets AFTER he is removed from the high office of our POTUS.

  5. Trump is not my president and I'm an American. What I hate most about him is the way he braggs and take credit for everything. It's allways me, me, me and I, I, I. And then there's the childish obsessions with his ralley's crowd size and the more he criticizes Obama shows the world just how jealous he is of this man's charisma, accomplishments and popularity, something he will never possess not to mention the disgusting lust he has for his own dauther. If Trump loses in 2020, there should be celebrations and dancing in the streets in America. Lets hope that we get the stability back in our country that we so desperately need. Those from abroad that sympathize with us please keep us in your thoughts. 🙏🤞🇺🇸

  6. Trump complained about Obama over spending when it's really what Trump wanted for himself. Now America is ok with picking up the tab…..
    Does Trump need to wear dippers as well?

  7. Someone let that lunatic know that Christ was described as having feet/skin like burnt bronze. That’s not orange!

  8. The man is just too old for such demanding job it all most to much for a young man he has just lost it someone need to step in an take control before we all be mushroom dust!

  9. Didn't idi Armean give himself loads of medals? Sorry can't spell his name . America has it's own dictator now .

  10. Self fulfilling prophecy! He said the world was laughing at us because we had Obama (a black man on office) now the world is laughing at us because he is now in office.

  11. He's obsessed with Mr Obama because he wasn't a chosen one but he was a good president STILL loved by millons and has respect and love all over the world and turmp is hated all over the world and laughed at

  12. Theres a real chance that when Trump loses the presidency he will be violent and vengeful and that his radical over the top followers will become a danger within their communities. He may leave the US and align with another country against us.

  13. It has reached the point where the military should walk into the white house, march this idiot out to the rear of the garden, strip his ass naked and then whip his ass until it's black and blue for everyone to see.

  14. He's just a mental excuse of a person that doesn't belong…especially in America. Deport his ass back to Bobhenhiem Germany where the trump family ORIGINATES…

  15. Berry aka Obama needs to know that one day everyone in the world will never trust you for your roll for not letting the American people know who was really responsible for the Pentagon,twins everyone involved ,when that day comes your laughing will stop .

  16. Cnn fake news remember when you got my email about ? And all they stated someone else all ready told use but the deaths didn't happen but they let it happen when they knew ?

  17. I told you that fool is going to start rambling on about sick stupid ass shitch that he will for get the next time somebody asks him the same question twice wow somebody is such a narcissistic.

  18. And I don't think it's funny either I think it's sad that this beautiful country is in the hands of a monster for real.

  19. I which to GOD that Joe Biden blows trump out of the presidential water, wins the nomination then turns around and choose as his running mate none other than Barack Obama. THAT'S when trump will shit his pants in the oval office…

  20. About time Trump made a difference .when they attack the president it means that his doing something wright but he will not bow down to the elite and they don't like that .back in the day they needed to tax everyone but the government had the FBI kill all business owners who had more assests then them to control and make laws for the people that they must pay ?

  21. Why does CNN only show clips of Trump talking for like 5 seconds then ends the clip 😂😂😂 it’s like the only cut out the stuff they want to reveal to stupid Americans to eat up.

  22. Seriously folks . Obama is shitting his pants right now . His former confidants are being questioned and offered immunity for testimony . Barry is sweating real sweat .

  23. The Incompetent will always find any excuse to hinge on to power knowing the loss of this highest office will put him and his family behind bar.No taking any steps on arms control might result in America Civil War as this Orange Misfit will later stir up divisions to call for one once he loses the Election.

  24. He's never been stable but now he's having a serious psychotic beak we should be concerned about his g7 meeting.

  25. Jewish people can't stand Traitor Trump. He is the Nastiest man alive! Also a big Racist. He can't give himself any awards.

  26. Aren't there laws in our Constitution to deal with monsters in office? This is making the USA a joke, for our own citizens. The whole world is laughing or crying. Impeach now! What are we waiting for America?

  27. Traitor Trump, you are not going to be president in 2020! Everyone planning to run could beat your lying ass. Plus, you are a Traitor! Maybe you could live in Trump Tower Moscow with your buddy Putin. Too bad Epsteins gone, he'd definitely want to visit you there.

  28. Ohhhhh.. He let that Netflix .. The Family.. go to his head.. Don't believe the hype #45 your going down.. WHEN YOU do.. you will be tried.. persecuted…jailed.. oh yea.. then your peeps.. are gonna say…he has ptsd.. or Depression.. dementia… they'll find some reason for him not to stand trial!!

  29. Let's talk about how JP Morgan just got caught with over a billion dollars of cocane on there boat people! WTF people it's not the Mexican people it's JP Morgen

  30. Everyone is laughing at this freak family,The Frump's,that's there real name it was changed when they immigrated to the US

  31. Will someone please tell the NRA and the gun manufacturers that they are killing off current and future gun owners. Someone needs to open up a competing non profit and put NRA out of business. Some 85 percent of gun owners want better laws around guns.

  32. If we have to pick up the tab on his debt, I think we should auction off his properties and everything of value that he and his family owns.

  33. trump is a demented dangerous individual who i hope his cult supporters do the ultimate sacrfice for trump and drink that poisoned Koolaid and make our lives easier.

  34. Just cant understand why the media even gives him the time of day . Media should boycot him . Its the worst thing you can do to him, ignore him . Its not like he says anything worthy of listening to.

  35. In the meantime GOP senators are continuing to install right wing Christian judges into the ranks of the Circuit Courts. Obama only got about 80 or so in eight years, and Our Lord LittleHands has put in over 200 Racist EvenGenital KKKristian RepublicKKKlan judges to the circuit courts, Who will continually contrive gerrymandering and thwart equal voting rights.

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