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Russell Brand & Bob Roth: “Meditation, Comedy, New Fatherhood, Recovery, and Life” | Talks at Google

GARCIA: Hi, everyone. We are in for a treat. For those of you
that I don’t know, my name is Carley Graham Garcia. I run external affairs for
Google’s New York City campus. Last fall, I had the
chance to meet Bob Roth who runs the David Lynch
Foundation and learn a bit about transcendental
meditation, which is the subject of this talk. He has brought
today Russell Brand who needs no introduction– comedian, now father, author. We’re going to hear all
about it and, in particular, how transcendental meditation
has affected his life. So please join me in
welcoming Russell and Bob. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] RUSSELL BRAND: Hey, thanks. [LAUGHTER] Thanks for introducing
Thank you for being here. So you seem like an
unlikely friendship. Tell us how you met before
we talk specifically about meditation. RUSSELL BRAND: [CLEARING THROAT] CARLEY GRAHAM GARCIA: How’d
this friendship begin? RUSSELL BRAND: Should
I answer it or Bob? Because we’ll probably have
different perspectives because, perhaps, there is no
objective reality, merely a series of
myriad [INAUDIBLE] and interpretations
of various events. For example, in this room
now, you’d say what happened? And some people would
go it was really weird. They lingered around there. But then later, they’d
go, no, he high-fived me. And you’ll go he fucked
with my introduction. [LAUGHTER] So, already, there is no
objective reality, merely a series of filtered events. We met in a gay bar. [LAUGHTER] BOB ROTH: Don’t
tell his wife-to-be. [LAUGHTER] No, you were working on a film. RUSSELL BRAND: Oh, yeah. I was working on a film. Go on, Bob. You say your version. Your version is as
valuable as mine. We’ll see. We can judge after. BOB ROTH: About seven or
eight years ago, Russell was working on a
documentary on happiness. And you were going all over
the country, weren’t you? You went to– RUSSELL BRAND: Bloody
ironic, it was, because it was a documentary on happiness. It was an absolute
pain in the ass. Couldn’t have been
more miserable. It was meant to be a sort
of a scrutinizing subject of happiness and peace. But I suppose I’ve been given
the opportunity without fully thinking about what I would do. Sometimes there’s a moment
when you have more power than you know what to do with. People– Oliver
Stone– approached me, do you want to
make a documentary? I went, yeah. All right. And then I was making
the documentary before fully realizing
what it was about. So sort of out of
nowhere I reached for the tangent
happiness, and I was in the middle of
making a documentary about knowing what I was doing. E.g., this interview now. I don’t know what it’s about. [LAUGHTER] I was in the foyer, and
I was asking people. There was a lady
called [? Jerry ?] who needs to quit smoking. There was a man
called, I think, Jerome I met in– we were
walking through the door. He goes, oh, you’re
doing a speech. And I went what is it about? And he went, that is
your job to decide. [LAUGHTER] CARLEY GRAHAM GARCIA:
Well, let’s go there. It’s a good segue. You have written a book
around addictions coming out called “Fix”– coming out in September. RUSSELL BRAND: Yeah, I
wasn’t sure about the title. Do you think it’s good? “Fix,” and I was wondering
about “Practical Alchemy.” No, “Fix.” “Fix.” CARLEY GRAHAM GARCIA: Talk about
how transcendental meditation has helped you recover
from addictions, has helped the process. RUSSELL BRAND:
Transcendental meditation helps as part of a process
of tackling addiction because, firstly, if there
is an addiction issue– and I suppose now that
I’ve been at university for, in my language,
a fortnight. That means two weeks– I have the dilettante’s
zeal, the zeal of the newly-converted. I was not educated
as a younger person. Only lately have I been subject
to conventional education. So, by god, the vocabulary
download I’ve been getting. I’m trying to [INAUDIBLE] all
of it in this next 10 minutes. What I learned is you
have to define your terms. Addiction– what is addiction? That’s how you win an
argument with people. You go what do you
mean by addiction? What do you mean by secularism? What do you mean by god? What do you mean by politics? What do you mean by religion? What do you mean by
counterrevolution? What do you mean by culture? Don’t let anyone say anything
that you don’t [INAUDIBLE] that you accept. And then you can tie them
up in semantics when they’re arguing– a bit late
now because we’ve all fallen foul of fascism by
mistake, and we’re in it, so there you go. We’re going to have
to deal with it. I just mean on the
global, political level, nothing serious. Addiction means,
to me, a behavior that you keep repeating, and you
can’t stop even if you want to. So if you’re eating
is troubling you, if your sexual
behavior is troubling, your relationships,
your relationship with your own work– more obvious are chemical
forms of addiction because the consequences
are greater, particularly drug
addiction, because it is criminalized as
we now know thanks to brilliant documentaries
like the “13th,” in some cases, is a way of penalizing and– what do I want to say–
marginalizing and imprisoning unpopular or,
perhaps you could say from a capitalistic perspective,
unnecessary demographics. But, like I said,
for me, addiction– any behavior that you want to
stop and change but cannot. That’s what addiction is. Me, I’m lucky. I would crack it and smack it. It’s very clear. If you’re taking heroin
and crack every day, it’s non-negotiable. It is evident that
you are a drug addict. It’s not like, oh, have you
got a problem with cupcakes? Yeah, maybe. [LAUGHTER] Well, you’re asleep
in a doorway. Something seems
to be going wrong. [LAUGHTER] So transcendental
meditation– look how long it’s taking me
to answer this question. How annoying [INAUDIBLE]. The first thing you have
to do is acknowledge that you’ve got a problem. If you don’t acknowledge
you’ve got a problem, how can you intervene in
your own consciousness? You have to intervene. This is the problem. Second, you have to believe
that change is possible. You have to be open to the
possibility of new data. I’m trying to use their lexicon. [LAUGHTER] Three, you need to
accept external help. In my language– I was just talking to
somebody called Lauren there who was– oh, shit. [INAUDIBLE] against the law
what she was telling me. I just spoke to an
anonymous person whose identity I won’t
reveal who was telling me that they had taken ayahuasca. Now through ayahuasca,
she had an experience within her own consciousness
that she had not previously encountered. And some of you that
have taken hallucinogens will know there’s
stuff inside your mind that you’re not
continually encountering. So step three of this program
I’m explaining to you– step one, I’m fucked. Step two, is it possible
to not be fucked? Step three, are you
going to unfuck yourself using the very consciousness
that got you into this position in the first place? Of course you’re not. You’re going to
have to accept help. It could be of a
divine nature, or it could be of a practical nature. Do you know how you feel more
powerful, collectively and communally? These are the kind
of relationships that are being broken down. Also, it doesn’t
have to be some sort of monotheistic, bloody,
patriarchal, racist, biased, sexist, homophobic face– BOB ROTH: Is that like me? Is that why you’re– RUSSELL BRAND:
[INAUDIBLE] Oh, my god. BOB ROTH: No, no. Am I that guy? RUSSELL BRAND: Yeah, it was like
neuro-linguistic programming. I went, racist! BOB ROTH: Yeah. Homophobe. RUSSELL BRAND: Bob has
no judgment of anybody. Bob talks to us all
as pure consciousness. That’s how Bob sees us. He just sees the body as
some sort of temporary blob. BOB ROTH: Keep going. RUSSELL BRAND: All right. So step three is to invite
into your experience a secondary agent. It could just be the help of
a friend or someone with more experience than you, or
it could be this program that I’m describing to you now. So, one, fucked. Two, possible beyond fucked. Three, are you going
to unfuck yourself using the thing that fucked
you up in the first place? Of course you’re not. So the fourth step is you make
an inventory of your behaviors, and you start to analyze how you
got yourself in this situation. Now having
inventoried, and then, in the final parts
of the program, start to make amends to all
of the different people you’ve harmed, you make a decision
to remain conscious. I have noticed we have a
propensity to go unconscious. One could say that the
times we are living in are an example of people
going unconscious on mass. People are not aware
of why they are in fear, of why
they are in pain, and are nominating erroneously
vulnerable portions of society as the target for their
blame and condemnation. If we awaken
consciousness, people will know that what
they’re experiencing is their own fear, their own
pain, and their own anguish, which can only be induced
and elicited by people that have huge amounts of power. That’s [INAUDIBLE]
powerless people can’t inflict pain on others. Only powerful
people can do this. So my point is this. The transcendental
meditation comes in and necessarily preluded
by what I’ve just said is because, in my
view, you can’t just start transcending
into another dimension if you’ve not dealt with
your behavior, or material, and psychological problems. This is how I found it. Not all of you are as
fucked up as me, I hope. [LAUGHTER] I had to do a lot
of work before I was at the point of getting
into transcendental meditation. Having done this work and
continuing to do this work because my mind resets to
psychotic with every dawn, the way that I use
transcendental meditation is that I haven’t– like my friend there was
saying about ayahuasca, an aspect of my consciousness,
which is not biochemical, which is not my drives– well, it might be biochemical. We have not fully
analyzed the neurology. I mean, fuck knows. I’m not a neurologist. But an aspect of myself that is
not my identity, my memories, my fears, and my desires, I
feel like I can commune with. It’s a pretty good
experience, particularly for someone who’s not allowed
to take heroin anymore. It’s good to have something
that takes me out of this world, takes me out of this body,
helps me to connect to love, helps me to connect
to creativity. For me, it’s in the component
of my recovery from addiction. It’s my ongoing recovery
from addictions. But for those of
you that don’t have such explicit, and obvious, or
evident problems with substance misuse or other
behavioral problems, I suppose transcendental
meditation might just give you a home inside your
heart, a home inside yourself so you don’t just feel lost
and adrift in this world, looking for redemption
and satisfaction from material means, which
will never, ever work for you. Sorry to break it to you. CARLEY GRAHAM GARCIA: Mmm. [APPLAUSE] BOB ROTH: How do
You’re now a father, and so how does the meditation and sort
of the transformation you just talked about influence
your fatherhood, now that you’re a dad? RUSSELL BRAND: It
affects everything because it means I am
present, and awake, and aware for my daughter. It’s amazing. I mean, I don’t know
how it practically applies because it’s like
doing yoga or doing exercise. I suppose, with
exercise, you’d go, oh, I’m able to lift
things over a wall. Perhaps you’re a cat burglar. [LAUGHTER] But transcendental
meditation means the crucible of my consciousness
is amending, so all things– consciousness is not
just one more phenomena. It is the seat of all phenomena. What is it that experiences
the beingness of you? What is it that
experiences your body, your senses, your feelings? Well, if this is affected
by transcendental meditation and I reckon other
forms of meditation, but we’re here on the
David Lynch ticket, so let’s say
transcendental meditation. Like Krishnamurti said,
didn’t you, Krishnamurti? Truth is a pathless land. For each of us,
it’s our own route. It’s own own path. But there are techniques. There are tools. There are doctrines and dogma. And not all of them are
prejudicial, biased, and awful. Some of them are very, very
beautiful in their journeys to God. So Bob who I met in this gay bar
some time ago, terribly drunk, tequila shots lined up on either
shoulder like little glass parrots on a– BOB ROTH: I’ll translate
this in a moment. [LAUGHTER] RUSSELL BRAND: Don’t
translate it, Bob. BOB ROTH: OK. It’s fine. It’s good. RUSSELL BRAND: All
language is already– I mean, it’s really abstract. It’s already abstract. BOB ROTH: So continue–
continue how we met. RUSSELL BRAND: It’s
already an abstraction. These people talk in binary. They probably already– they’re
translating into zeros and ones as I’m talking– 0, 0, 1, 1, 1, 0, 0, 0. There’s got to be an
algorithm for this. At some point,
we’ll be replaced. No matter how we strive for
perfection in the cyber world, still you have to
go in an elevator, come around the fire exit,
walk across a room because of the realities of life. No matter how technologically
advanced we get, still it’s hard to get
that soap to come out at the right time
and the water– [LAUGHTER] No matter how advanced we come
through technological means, still the stools
in the bathroom, the toilet door only goes
to there and ends there, so it’s like your
shitting behind a plank. [LAUGHTER] Hello. Hello. I’m vulnerable. [LAUGHTER] We will ever be flesh. We will ever be carnal. We will ever be led by our
desires and our madness. But who will
negotiate within us? Who are you going to have
negotiate for you when the demons come, when
the darkness comes, when the president comes? Who will you turn to? CARLEY GRAHAM GARCIA:
So I want to ask Bob to do some translation, but I– RUSSELL BRAND: Get Bob
to do what you like. He’s lovely. Bob’s very– in a minute,
once Bob starts talking, you’ll be praying for the
sane one to start again. CARLEY GRAHAM GARCIA: One more
question for the sane one– comedy– one more
question for you. Comedy– how has meditation
informed your comedy or helped your comedy? RUSSELL BRAND: It’s helped it a
lot because I think that comedy is the continual revelation
that this material of dance that we are engaged with
is secondary and not real. You know that because you– I’m assuming everyone creates
these sort of secondary cyber dimensions. And, in that game,
“Assassin’s Creed,” the office that you work
in before you go off to do the assassinations, I
feel like this is that place. I don’t know. [LAUGHTER] Like in “Assassin’s
Creed,” [? what I like. ?] Anyway, how it affects
comedy is comedy is the acknowledgement that the
material reality that we’re all engaged in now– you
know, oh, hello Bob. Oh, no. I hope I’m not talking too much. Oh, are you OK? It’s all bullshit. It’s not real, is it? None of it’s real. We’re all going to die. We are going to actually die. Maybe not the consciousness,
[INAUDIBLE], maybe not that. Please, God. Please, God. But the individual identity,
the biography, it’s all going. It’s all going. So this is a game. This is a dance. Comedy is the
revelation of that. It’s the understanding of that. It’s the continual
acknowledgement of when you’re going,
hey, you’re out of order, that part of me’s like, [SPIT]
it doesn’t fucking matter. None of it matters. But oh, you broke my heart. Something in you will
go, it’s not real. It’s not real. Something in you knows already. Something in you
knows you can overcome the trauma of your childhood,
the heartbreak, the pain, the loss. Something in you knows that
you have not separated yourself from the eternal
and the infinite, that you are good enough, that
you don’t need to be ashamed, that you don’t need to be
afraid, that we can build worlds from our imagination. Something in us
knows this already, and it’s trying
to realize itself. Get out of its fucking way. [APPLAUSE] So it helps comedy
because it just makes you think nothing’s real. So everything’s funny. CARLEY GRAHAM
GARCIA: So, Bob, help us a bit with a framework
here and how we can– BOB ROTH: Anybody help? Anybody– CARLEY GRAHAM GARCIA:
Well, how we can practice transcendental meditation. BOB ROTH: First of all, I want
to say that the first time I met Russell was in
a bar in New York. RUSSELL BRAND: Told ya. BOB ROTH: Yeah. [LAUGHTER] And I had been called– it’s interesting. A friend had called
me up and said that a producer was working
on a documentary on happiness, and I had taught this
woman to meditate. And now she was helping Russell
to produce this documentary on happiness. And she said Russell Brand is
interested in talking with you and possibly seeing
if meditation could have a role in happiness. And so I didn’t know who Russell
was at the time, particularly. RUSSELL BRAND: I’m still
trying to work it out. BOB ROTH: And so I talked to
some friends, and they said, he’s incredibly funny. He’s very funny, but meet
with him before you do this. Invest this time and
see if he’s going to take this seriously or not. So I met him in a bar and noisy. And he came right up to me. And he said, are you
going to teach me transcendental meditation? And I said, how much
time do you have? Because it takes an hour
a day over four days. And this deep, and
beautiful, and very funny man got tears in his eyes. And he said, I’ve been searching
for the timeless my whole life. I have as much time
as you’ll give me. And I taught him. And when I instructed him,
I remember looking over as he was meditating. And I thought– he doesn’t
have to be hearing this– he’s one of the most
profound, honest people. Are we just going to do this– RUSSELL BRAND: I’m just going
to write this down while you’re saying this. BOB ROTH: It’s hard enough– RUSSELL BRAND: I’m
enjoying these adjectives. Profound, honest. BOB ROTH: No, he is, just
is, is one in a million. And I’ve been very fortunate– RUSSELL BRAND: Actually
not good, statistically. They deal with numbers. BOB ROTH: One in a million is
not that much, not that much. Am I talking too long? RUSSELL BRAND: 6
billion people– No, you’re not talking too long. Especially with the–
more of the profound stuff about how great I am. That was going over really well. The lady wanted to know about
how transcendental meditation is going to help– BOB ROTH: I’m
going to get to it. I wanted to answer
this question. RUSSELL BRAND: Don’t
be so meandering. Be more like me, succinct. [LAUGHTER] Like a harpoon–
[SHOOTING SOUND] BOB ROTH: It’s like being
a substitute teacher in the second grade, and
everybody’s on Ritalin. RUSSELL BRAND: That’s a
terrible drug [INAUDIBLE]. That should be banned. Ruined my [? vocabulary. ?] BOB ROTH: The reason I said
that is because Russell has– and I’m going to get to this. But this is David
Lynch Foundation. That’s the filmmaker
David Lynch. And I’m trying to
get him to come here. “Twin Peaks” is airing again
25 years later on Sunday. And Russell has been more
instrumental in bringing the effects of meditation to
half a million kids, and women, and children who are victims
of sexual assault and also veterans. When we talk about
transcendental meditation, to answer your question– how many people here have
tried some form of meditation? Yeah, like mindfulness? Yeah, lots. So I like to use an analogy. And the analogy is
you’re on a little boat, and you’re in the middle
of the Atlantic Ocean. And, all of a sudden,
you get these giant 30, 40 foot high waves. And you could rightfully think
the whole ocean is in upheaval. Jeez. But if you can do a
cross-section of the ocean out there, you’d
realize that there’s these little 30-foot waves,
but the ocean, in reality, is over a mile deep. And while the
nature of the ocean can be very turbulent and
tsunami-esque on the surface, in reality, the ocean
at its depth is silent. And so we say– Is this OK? RUSSELL BRAND: Yeah,
I’m really enjoying it because isn’t it interesting
how the ocean continually recurs in mythology,
folklore, and literature as the ultimate metaphor
for consciousness? BOB ROTH: Yes. RUSSELL BRAND: Any
of you that know about Jung or the work
of Joseph Campbell now that this motif of the
ocean is continually used. So it’s a very accurate
analogy that you’re using. And the stillness is perennial. The stillness is constant. The higher frequency
vibrations and seeming movement is temporal. I like that. That’s good shit. [LAUGHTER] BOB ROTH: So I met
Russell in a bar– no. Every time you interrupt,
I’m starting over. RUSSELL BRAND: Oh, oh! Fuck you! It is like school. Because of what
Russell’s done, you’ve all gto ot got to stay behind. Thanks, Russell. [? What, ?] I didn’t
make that rule! BOB ROTH: Yeah. Anyway, the analogy
is to the mind. And the surface of the mind,
this is analogous to the waves. And it’s been called
the monkey mind. And I like to call it the gotta,
gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta, gotta mind. That’s the waves. That’s I gotta to do
this, and I gotta do that, and I gotta call him,
and I gotta call her, and I gotta make a list,
and I gotta find the list, and I gotta make a new
list, and I gotta slow down, but I gotta get going. I gotta get up. Anybody have that? Yeah. And so that is that. And every human being– every human being has– no matter what, we all have this
desire at some point to say, god, I’d like to have a
little break in the noise. I’d like to have a little inner
calm, a little inner clarity, a little inner peace. And not in a sort of religious–
just connectedness, creativity, something new. And so the operative
word there is inner, and the question is, is there
such a thing as an inner? And, if so, how
do you get there? So, in TM, which we’re
talking about– but I have to pause and say I
am not a siloing person. I’ve been teaching
TM for 45 years. In fact, today is
my 45th anniversary of teaching
transcendental meditation. [APPLAUSE] I started at the age of 61. [LAUGHTER] So other meditations have– it’s not a question of I’m
better, different outcomes. And if there’s time,
we can talk about it. Research shows
different outcomes. They have different
values, purposes. But in this meditation,
there’s nothing to believe in. And we hypothesize that
every human being has deep inside of us right now– right now, at the deepest level,
transcendent level of the mind, there’s a level of the mind that
is already calm, and settled, and peaceful, yet wide awake. And it is unbounded. And it is transcendent. It is my own nature, though. You don’t have to believe in it. It’s there, and we’ve
lost access to it. And here’s one other thing–
is this too much talk? CARLEY GRAHAM
GARCIA: No, please. BOB ROTH: Because– RUSSELL BRAND: Are you
like that in sex, Bob? Is this OK? Are we all right? BOB ROTH: No, I have to say why. No, I want to say why I do it. No, I want to say– I have to tell you why. Because I’m on the– RUSSELL BRAND: Is it hygienic
to go in the mouth after? Come on. It’s not real. It’s not real. Limitless consciousness. BOB ROTH: The reason I do
that is I’m always on– I’m usually on her side– RUSSELL BRAND: Sorry. Sorry. CARLEY GRAHAM GARCIA: That’s OK. RUSSELL BRAND: I forgot about
your grace at that moment. [LAUGHTER] I was just thinking about
Bob and derailing him for my own amusement. BOB ROTH: You can’t derail it. The reason I do that is
I’m often on your side, and I say, OK, you’ve got
three minutes to talk. And then the person goes
on for like half an hour. And I’m like. Will you shut up? RUSSELL BRAND: [INAUDIBLE]
you’re doing really well. How’s your day going? [LAUGHTER] [INAUDIBLE] BOB ROTH: So what
transcendental meditation does is it gives access to that
transcendent level of the mind. There are mindfulness
approaches, which have their value,
which is to either try and clear the mind of thoughts. And that’s called
focused attention, and that’s trying to stop
waves on the surface. And that creates something
called gamma brain waves, which are 20 to 60 cycles
per second, usually in the left frontal lobe. Then there is open monitoring,
which are many mindfulness approaches. And there are many, as you know. And that’s body scans. And that’s mindful eating,
and mindful talking, and mindful walking,
and mindful everything. And that’s to just
dispassionately observe your thoughts to bring calm. And in transcendental
meditation, it’s a technique that
doesn’t mind waves because we know that they exist. It just gives effortless
access to the use of a mantra but not concentrating
on the mantra, use of a sound that gives access
to that transcendent level, that level. And I’m about to
turn this back over to Russell, but the point– because I’m a sort of a
skeptical person by nature. I’m like a science guy. And you could hear
me say all that stuff about a transcendent level. And you could say yeah,
yeah, yeah, right. Where’s the proof? And the proof, other
than your own experience, comes from science. And brain research,
scans, and EEG shows that when you
have that experience, that experience of
your own silent level of the mind, the whole brain,
electrical activity, the EEG signature is of alpha 1. That’s eight to 10
cycles per second. And that’s a state of deep,
deep inner calm and wakefulness. And one last thing. Then I’m going to turn
this back over to you guys. And that is, I think one of the
most important elements of this is when the mind
settles down during TM, the body gains a state
of rest, in many regards, deeper than the deepest
part of deep sleep. And what does that rest do? You ever heard of cortisol? Cortisol is a stress hormone. When Russell and I were
ready to go out here, just talk, there’s some anxiety. And the adrenals
secrete cortisol, and it makes us feel anxious. And it’s terrible. Too much cortisol
undermines sleep, undermines the immune system,
digestion, everything. A good night’s sleep reduces
cortisol levels by 10%. 20 minutes of TM every time
reduces cortisol levels 30% to 40%. So it’s a profound
rebooting of the system. Now I’m done. CARLEY GRAHAM GARCIA: Thank you. Thank you. [APPLAUSE] We’re going to open
things up to questions. So please if you have a
question for Russell or Bob, begin to assemble at the mics. But one question,
first, about something you both raised, time, how
do you find the time in both of your busy lives to do this? I mean, you mentioned it’s an
hour-long commitment, four– BOB ROTH: No, to learn
it, it takes an hour a day over four days. But to practice, 20
minutes twice a day. That’s the ideal. That’s the ideal. CARLEY GRAHAM GARCIA:
Russell, you’re traveling all over the world. You’re in different time zones. You have really busy days. How do you construct
this into your day? Walk us through. Where does it fall? RUSSELL BRAND: It’s
not really that hard. It’s just like sort of cleaning
your teeth or something. It’s just something
that you ultimately feel that it’s nutritional
and beneficial. Why not? 20 minutes. Think of all the things you do. Think of the times you
vacantly stare at fucking Facebook or whatever. When I do those things, I say
after you meditate, idiot. In a way, it’s in,
I don’t know, sort of a checkpoint in
my mind of have you– before you look at pornography,
which I never do now, ever. Gone, thank God. I mean, bloody stuff. BOB ROTH: He has a wonderful
wife to be, wife-to-be. RUSSELL BRAND: Don’t
worry about all that. I’m talking– [LAUGHTER] My Google search would
tell a different story. BOB ROTH: Yeah. [LAUGHTER] RUSSELL BRAND: If you put
into in your own mind, right, am I really going
to eat this shit food? Am I really going to spend
time looking at Twitter or whatever it is? You still will do it. I still do those thing. I still find material
things, titillating things interesting
and intriguing, but I try to do
other stuff, also. Have I done something
for other people? Have I been kind
to someone today? Have I gone out of
my way for people? Have I meditated? It ain’t that hard, isn’t it? Like 20 minutes, for
God’s sake, twice a day. What else are you going to do? In a sense, if you’re
spending all your time ignoring the reality of
your life, i.e., mortality, this is a good way to
negotiate with that. It’s not hard. It’s not a hard thing to fit in. It’s a bit of a pain in the ass. The morning one, I always do. The second one can be a drag. The second one, you’re
like oh fucking hell, just sit down and do
nothing for 20 minutes. So sometimes it feels like
that because I think this. This is what I’d be saying if
I was a meditation teacher, not that I want to teach you how to
teach meditation after you’ve been doing it for 45 years,
on the very anniversary of that day by some cruel
bastard bullying a widow. Like everyone always
says, oh, I can’t meditate because my
mind’s always chattering. Well, fucking hell. What do you think’s
going on in here? I only say 10% of
the things I think. [LAUGHTER] BOB ROTH: 1%. RUSSELL BRAND: That’s
what it is to have a mind. It’s relentlessly
going on all the time. That’s what it fucking does. So my experience of
it is like I sit down, and I go, all right,
I’m going to meditate. All right. Fucking hell. Shut me up. [INAUDIBLE] Oh, that’s
terrible, the thing that happened when I was a kid. It’d be good if I could do that. What if I was a king? Oh, no, no. No, mantra, mantra,
mantra, mantra. You know, this– they make
any more “Batman” movies? Or they– mantra,
mantra, mantra, mantra. So I return. [INAUDIBLE] You might
like this analogy. I bet if you see that movie
about that man that walked a tightrope between the towers. Do you remember that? Like, you’d think, how did he
get that cable across there? Well, you know what
they did, right? They fire an arrow with
a very, very thin thread and then tied to the end of the
thin thread, a slightly thicker string, and tied to the string,
thicker, thicker, thicker till it’s rope, till it’s cable. First, get the arrow through. Then get the thin thread. Then it becomes thicker and
thicker, the connection. So, first, the arrow is sitting
down making the decision. The thin thread,
the initial mantra. Don’t be surprised
if your mind keeps going– you know, rattling on. That’s what a fucking– that’s what it does. That’s its job, isn’t
it, is doing that. There’s a virus in the mind. The ego is a virus in the mind. Come on. Let’s let people ask
questions, don’t you think? BOB ROTH: No, I want to– RUSSELL BRAND: They’re
all fucking stuck here. BOB ROTH: –one last thing. RUSSELL BRAND: This
might be mandatory. Is this voluntary? [LAUGHTER] Tell me this is voluntary. Oh, no. It’s mandatory. This is punishment. This is for people
who are– right. Because of that bad
bit of programming, you’ve got to sit and
listen to them motherfuckers talk about meditation. [LAUGHTER] Please. I want to go in one
of them side rooms. I have a massage. I’ll be in there in a minute. [LAUGHTER] CARLEY GRAHAM GARCIA: Go ahead. AUDIENCE: Thank you guys
both so much for being here. My question is
really about how you view TM versus other
meditation offerings, like Headspace, which is an app. Do you view TM as kind of
like the rigorous like talking through it type of meditation? Or can you talk
about how you view that versus the other
standardized forms? RUSSELL BRAND: You do it. BOB ROTH: OK. So, for a long time,
scientists thought all med– I mean, I’ve been at
this for 45 years– so all meditation was just bunk. And then, no, it was ridiculous. And then some initial
research came out on TM in the early ’70s showed that it
changed brain waves and reduced high blood pressure. And then there’s been more
and more data coming out on mindfulness and other
techniques showing benefit. So then it became, well,
all meditations are the– first of all,
meditation did nothing. Now all meditations
are the same. And now, with brain
research, it’s become quite clear that
there are three basic types of approaches that are based on
technique, what you’re actually doing when you sit
and close your eyes. And, as I said earlier,
one is a concentration form of meditation. So if you’re
controlling your mind and trying to clear
the mind of thoughts, that’s that focused attention. And that’s gamma brainwaves. And then open monitoring,
that’s theta brain waves, five to seven cycles,
that sort of pre-onset dream. And then TM, which
is transcendent. My feeling is I don’t
like when people silo. Well, I do this [INAUDIBLE],
and so I don’t have to do that, or I do loving-kindness
meditation. And I– it’s a world. There’s a lot
going on out there, and we should learn
evidence-based skills. They have different techniques. In TM, the beautiful
thing about this is you don’t have to clear
your mind of thoughts. You know that idea, oh,
that kid’s a hot-head, and he’s boiling over with rage? So we know the mind can
be really a hot system. And we also know, oh, cooler
minds will prevail, cool, calm, and collected. And so, in this
meditation, we just allow the thinking mind
to just settle down. So when Russell says he has– I have a ton of
thoughts in meditation. It’s just are they
up here, or are they more on that transcendent level? And so what TM
does is it provides deep rest, which gets rid
of stress, and tension, and anxiety. But these other approaches,
they have their good cognitive training. I don’t know if I answered
your question, but OK. Oh, as far as apps go,
it remains to be seen. Headspace, Muse– I
haven’t really seen– I want to see rigorous data. I don’t want someone
to say it does this. I want to see published
peer-reviewed studies. And so far, I haven’t seen that. RUSSELL BRAND: No, no. I think you covered it, mate. BOB ROTH: OK. AUDIENCE: Thank you. AUDIENCE: Hi there. My name is Jared. First, I commend you for
your public and policy work on addiction. I think that’s fantastic. As a fellow in recovery
as well, my question is, addiction as a whole,
there’s this massive stigma. We know that heroin death
is growing at record rates. It’s the biggest it’s ever been. And anonymity, obviously,
is a spiritual principle in most 12-step programs. But I also think it can reduce– or I think people being vocal
in public about their recovery can also help the
stigma in public. Where do you see
us going from here? RUSSELL BRAND: Well, I think
that’s a good question. What’s your name, mate? AUDIENCE: My name is Jared. RUSSELL BRAND: All right, Jerry. BOB ROTH: Jared. RUSSELL BRAND: Jared. I’ve got accent, in case you– AUDIENCE: Jared with a D. RUSSELL BRAND: Thanks, man. Jared. Cheers, Jared. I over-did it now. “Jare-duh.” [LAUGHTER] Like a bullet. Jared. Well, what I think, mate,
is that’s a good point because it is stigmatized
because, well, it’s a crime. So if you take drugs,
you’re a criminal. And crime is really a bad thing. But it’s not really, is it? I mean, if you can’t cope
with your psychological state, and you need to take drugs,
you’re going to take drugs. You’ll do what you’ve
got to do, aren’t you? The principles around
anonymity, for me, that’s not my job to decide
because those fellowships to which you refer have
their traditions in place because there were good
reason in the ’30s when those fellowships were
established to protect the members from the stigma of
addiction that you speak of. And also to stop–
because a lot of people have addiction
issues– and I don’t want to blow the
lid off this thing– also are wild egomaniacs. [LAUGHTER] So it’s good that no one
can come to the forefront and start claiming to
be Captain Addiction. But what I think is
the destigmatization does end in conversation. I mean, if you look at
various forms of civil rights and the progress that’s been
made in the last half century, particularly, then you can see
that bringing the conversation to a public level
does alter perception. Now what I reckon is the answer
to your question, “Jare-duh,” is that all of us are like
on the spectrum of addiction. All of us have some behavior
that we would like to alter. All of us are reliant and
dependent, necessarily, on some sort of material
thing or behavior because we’re living
in a world that doesn’t nurture our spiritual needs. And you know, if you’re a man
like me in recovery, the reason you took drugs in
the first place was to address this
feeling of pain, this feeling of worthlessness,
this feeling of loss and sadness within you. And it works, doesn’t it? Drugs works for a while– AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]. RUSSELL BRAND: –good technique. Heroin will park
pain, momentarily. Some days I miss it still. But, ultimately, it
was a place holder for this sense of
connection that can only be attained–
for me, I think the meditation is a component. But what does it matter
if you’re like, oh, I’m really like a
holy, spiritual guy, but your life isn’t about,
on some level, altruism, philanthropy, and
basic kindness? So what I reckon, Jared, is
what we’ve got to do, mate, is people that are
straight-up plain junkies of the [INAUDIBLE]
standard variety, you and I, we have to
talk to other people where it’s food, sex, gambling,
whatever and just say, get on board with the
whole mentality of recovery because all of us need to
be free from something. All of us are
relying on something. All of us have some sort of 3:00
AM shame that we wake up with, like, oh, god. I’m not good enough. We live with it, and
harbor it, and try to build a version of
ourselves that we can put out into the world that’s
manageable and livable, some secret apology of ourself. So I reckon that we take
[INAUDIBLE] that everybody is suffering in some way,
and we use our own recovery as an example because
I have found myself, since getting clean
from drugs and alcohol, I’ve had to deal with food. I’ve had to deal with sex. I’ve had to deal
with narcissism. I’ve had to deal with fame,
money, all of the false idols that I thought
that would heal me. Every single one I
[? created ?] like a prophet. Yet, when the true thing came,
when the connection came, when the recovery came, this
is when I become skeptical. What, helping other people,
sitting still, being quiet for 20 minutes a day? Fuck off. Give me some smack. Give me a blow job, you know– [LAUGHTER] –in reverse order. [LAUGHTER] Otherwise, it’s
going to take ages. [LAUGHTER] But they say every man that
knocked on a brothel door was looking for God. And, you know, God as a
placeholder for connection, for union, for
togetherness to transcend the illusion of
our separateness, to transcend the illusion
of these hierarchies, to transcend the illusion
of our insignificance, to transcend our pain. So I think, mate, it’s just by
[? carry-on, ?] [? crack-on ?] of what you’re doing. Don’t be embarrassed
about being in recovery. You’ve done very well. How long you been doing it? AUDIENCE: Seven years. RUSSELL BRAND: That’s
fucking amazing. Well done, mate. Nice work. [APPLAUSE] BOB ROTH: [INAUDIBLE] CARLEY GRAHAM GARCIA: Thank you. AUDIENCE: Hello. Thank you for coming, also. I have kind of a
two-part question. I know that you– [? BOB ROTH: ?] Go to the mic? AUDIENCE: Oh, I’m sorry. RUSSELL BRAND: It’s
a two-part question. AUDIENCE: Yes. RUSSELL BRAND:
“Godfather 1 and 2.” [INAUDIBLE] We’re not doing 3. AUDIENCE: So I know you were
talking about being skeptical, and I was wondering have
you ever experienced, either of you, a
lot of skepticism in the benefits of meditation? And, also, people who
turn to drugs, initially, do you think that they
would be able to be deterred from them by meditation? BOB ROTH: You go ahead. I’ll start. RUSSELL BRAND: You have a go. Go on. And I’ll drink this
water for a bit. And then I’ll step in
and say something flash. [LAUGHTER] BOB ROTH: Addiction from a
brain chemistry standpoint and from brain functioning,
when you have an experience over and over again, so you’re
looking for something– you’re anxious, or stressed,
or lonely, or whatever. So then you have the experience
of heroin or anything. It activates the pleasure
centers in the brain. One of them is a
nucleus accumbens. But it also, you
could say, distorts or traumatizes the
way the neurons, the way the brain
is functioning. But then you go down that cycle. Oh, I’m unhappy, so I need to
keep having that experience. One of the problems with a
type of program for addiction is if you just tell a person
they can’t take the drug but don’t change the
brain functioning, the circuits, then
they’re always going to– the moment they’re
off that one month recovery program, whatever, they’re
just going to go back to it, or they’re going to sublimate
it to something else. The wonderful thing about– at least, I know because
we work with addicts– is when you transcend,
when your mind settles down to that state of
inner calm, there’s a change. The alpha one brainwave, the
whole brain resets itself. All the different
parts of the brain begin to communicate
with each other. And they say in meditation the– is this too– anyways,
I won’t say it. The neurons that fire
together during meditation in a healthy way wire
together out of meditation. So you have a healthier, more
integrated, more connected experience. And so it does help
override those impulses, but it’s not overnight. And Russell says, and I
agree, it’s not the only way. But I think it’s an
important component. So, yes, it can change
and transform the way– and by just reducing anxiety
and increasing something called serotonin, which is the
happiness neurotransmitter. And when we’re
depressed, then we have low levels of serotonin. It increases serotonin
in that experience. Now you make it better. RUSSELL BRAND: No,
that was brilliant. Don’t be so silly. BOB ROTH: [LAUGHS]
Don’t be so silly. RUSSELL BRAND: Well,
I am a drug addict, and I’m not taking drugs
for ages now, 14 years. Not that it’s a
competition “Jare-duh.” [APPLAUSE] I’m not saying I’m literally
twice as good as you at not taking drugs in a
not taking drugs contest. Who’s going to watch that? It definitely works, mate. Bob’s right about you’ve
got to change your brain, and you’ve got to
change your behavior. But when you think about it,
when you first get clean, meditation, at that point,
[? you’re not ?] fucking hell. It’s just enough to not
be taking drugs, frankly. So what was the part
two of the question? I want to make sure
that we’ve covered every single thing
you’ve ever wanted to know about everything. AUDIENCE: Yeah, I was just
asking you about skepticism, also. Like, have you ever faced– RUSSELL BRAND: People
will be skeptical, always. This is an inevitability. Skepticism is a good thing. People should have doubt. It will stop people being
beleaguered and tricked by the good many people that
want to beleaguer, and trick us, and keep us stupid, and to
keep us as passive consumers, skepticism is a very,
very good thing. But you shouldn’t be skeptical
about your own ability to change yourself. You shouldn’t be skeptical
about your own ability to fulfill yourself. You have this ability. So, yes, we face skepticism. I face my own skepticism
is the biggest challenge. But, luckily,
because like Jared, I have support of other people. So when I’m feeling
crazy, and weak, and vulnerable–what happens
most days– they go, ah, you’re all right. Don’t worry too much. You’re taking life
too seriously. So it’s a good component. The skepticism is OK. I say give it a try. BOB ROTH: I would just add
that the nice thing about this is I encourage it. Be 100% skeptical. It’s not based on belief. You can be skeptical about
gravity and the ball drops. You can be a believer
in electricity. It doesn’t make a 100-watt
bulb a 120-watt bulb. So if it’s real,
and it’s natural, then it doesn’t require
any philosophical construct or belief system. At least, this meditation
doesn’t require that. So skeptical is great. CARLEY GRAHAM
GARCIA: That’s great. We have time for
two more questions. RUSSELL BRAND: How do you
know how long they’ll take? [LAUGHTER] CARLEY GRAHAM GARCIA:
It could be just one. BOB ROTH: Up to two questions. AUDIENCE: I’ll try to be– RUSSELL BRAND: For some people
are going to work, aren’t they? You see them go. Sorry to interrupt you, sorry. AUDIENCE: It’s OK. I think Bob’s used to it. [LAUGHTER] Hi, my name is Fizz. For Russell’s enunciation,
that’s F-I-Z-Z. RUSSELL BRAND: Salty
bastard, isn’t he? [LAUGHTER] Is he like this
at work every day? Fizz? [LAUGHTER] AUDIENCE: Well, we talked a
little bit about the proof behind the pudding,
right, so it seems that two of the
biggest ways are, one, with incredible case
studies, such as Russell, and, also, the science
behind the neurology. So I’m hoping you
could kind of expand a bit more about the
impact it has on the brain. Until recently,
most neurologists assumed that, at puberty,
our brains stop developing. But research shows now
that our brains continue to develop structurally,
functionally, and also chemically kind of long-term
impacts of meditation. And also, given all the
proven recent studies, curious to hear about,
at the individual level and the society level,
what’s holding us back from really adopting
meditation as a whole, not only for addicts
but for everyone? BOB ROTH: I’m going to
talk about the brain, and then I’m going to
let you talk about the– OK. So they used to say, oh, we use
10% of our mental potential. That’s not true. And they say, well,
meditation awakens– you can. Anywhere you put your
attention, like if you play violin for 30 years,
this part of your fingers and that part of your brain,
you’re developing gray matter. You’re developing connections. But more important
is the communication, different parts of the brain. So you have the
prefrontal cortex. That’s the frontal lobe. That’s the CEO of your brain. And that’s like the
size of your fist. And that is judgment, planning,
decision-making, sense of self, actual,
ethical reasoning, problem-solving,
innovative thinking, here. Then you have another
key part, which is the amygdala, which
is the fear center. And that’s fight or
flight or freeze. Now what happens is stress,
fatigue, drugs, alcohol takes the frontal lobes offline. Just what it does. A person can’t drink
and drive because that takes this offline, and
it impairs judgment. And what gets activated, or
aroused, is the amygdala. So what happens
during, at least I know TM, is when the
mind settles down, you can see the connections,
the communication between the front of the brain. Actually, there’s 14 different
sections of the frontal lobes. All these connections
here and connections from the front of the brain,
and the back of the brain, and the left and
right hemisphere, all the different
parts of the brain begin to communicate in
meditation and because of neuroplasticity,
out of meditation. And so that’s why we offer
this meditation in schools all over the world, particularly
under-served schools for free. You see these kids,
their grades go up. They graduate. But, more importantly,
they’re happier. They’re happier. So I think that what
you’re seeing is– I think that cutting edge
research on all meditations is what’s going on in the brain. And, again, it’s not some
miraculous part of the brain that we’ve never used before. It’s all about communication. Stress, fatigue rips
those connections apart. Transcending puts
them back together. And now why is it
taking so long? RUSSELL BRAND: I think
you’ve covered it because look at these two men. They have questions. BOB ROTH: OK. They say in science–
they say in science, science progresses
one funeral at a time. And I think what you’re
seeing is an old system. Like when I was teaching
meditation 40 years ago, the word “meditation” was, wow. No, thank you. And now younger generation
is, oh, I’d like to try that, or I tried it, and
I couldn’t do it. So it’s just time. AUDIENCE: Thank you. AUDIENCE: Hi. Thanks for coming. I’m a parent. Carley’s a parent. You’re a new parent. How does TM help you
with being a good parent? RUSSELL BRAND: Probably makes me
more patient and more present. So those things, but it helps
in all areas of my life. Your t-shirt says you
still miss James Baldwin. Yeah. It’s a shame, isn’t it? [INAUDIBLE] I think it helps
with everything. I think it helps
with everything. It makes me feel more connected
to her and more present. It’s sort of true of
everything in my life, really. I suppose making the decision
that you are twice a day going to put aside
20 minutes to do something that’s not stimulating
in that kind of way– [? you know, it’s not– ?]
just physically stimulating– I think it’s a good decision
to make as a parent, as a non-parent. Don’t wait until
you’ve got children. You better get fucking
relaxed before they turn up. [LAUGHTER] That’s my experience. AUDIENCE: Good point. BOB ROTH: Some little
kid, his father– I’m teaching a father and son. And the father was
saying, I can’t meditate. And the little kid, 12
years old, he said, Dad, there’s 1,440 minutes in a day. You don’t got 40
minutes for yourself? So– RUSSELL BRAND: Get to bed. BOB ROTH: Yeah. First– RUSSELL BRAND: For 590
minutes, you little bastard. BOB ROTH: First
thing in the morning, you just get up 20
minutes earlier. The afternoon, people just
prioritize it as best they can. AUDIENCE: Hi. Thank you for being here. RUSSELL BRAND:
Congratulations on your beard. AUDIENCE: Oh, thank
you very much. [LAUGHTER] This is something that’s very
near and dear to my heart. I’m expecting two children
actually next month. RUSSELL BRAND: Bloody hell. Well done. AUDIENCE: Been clean for six– RUSSELL BRAND:
Same woman, I hope. AUDIENCE: –six months. One lady, two kids, yeah. RUSSELL BRAND: Bad ass. AUDIENCE: Yeah. And when they arrive– I mean, they’re
already this much, so we’re not doing the whole
from beginning to this. We’re here. But when they
arrive, mental health is a very important part of it. And it’s not a very important
thing in this country. And Google makes a
really safe space. Obviously you guys are here. We’re talking about this. This is a great thing, but the
outside world is not like that. So I’m just wondering
what your guys’ take is on the socioeconomic
access to this kind of thing. Not every place is Google,
and my concern is not them– because I’m confident
in myself, and my wife, and our ability
to bring them up– but everybody else around them. So, obviously, pushing
this stuff out to the world is very important
to all of us here. I just want to know what
your take is on access to it at the top of the
thing you mentioned, the president, which
this country’s not very good at that kind of thing. I don’t know how
it is in London, but I imagine probably
slightly better. But just your take really
quick on access to it from a socioeconomic
perspective. RUSSELL BRAND: I
understand, my friend. We talk a lot about
extremism and fundamentalism with regard to people that
are in smaller groups. Oh, they’re extremists. These people are
fundamentalists. But we are living in a
fundamentalist and extremist system. The economic system
that we live in is, it’s extreme to prioritize
profit above all else. The reason that I feel extremely
optimistic is because all of us here are potential units
and cells of transformation and change. Now, admittedly, if you’re
in an economically-deprived situation, whilst the David
Lynch Foundation does make incredible efforts– going to inner-city schools
is one of their priorities, in fact– but there is a limit
to the efficacy of philanthropy and altruism. At some point, there
does need to be state-level, global-level
change, which requires a paradigm
shift in the way we regard economics and the
redistribution of resources. That has to happen. You understand this. This is embedded
in your question. But the positivity comes
from the fact that all of us are here now. Each one of us has
the ability to be effective in our own lives. Love spreads. It emanates. And I think that if
we learn to meditate, if we learn to live in
a different way, then we become sort of vibrant,
potent emanaters of positivity. We don’t have to go
all giddy and stuff and putting flowers in our hair
and getting all [? daft. ?] I think we could have a fight
on our hands any day soon. But it’s important to
allow love into your life. Don’t feel afraid of that. Transformation and change can
happen very, very quickly. Dear old Bob just said like
science evolves or wherever one funeral at a time. No one in this room
is going to be here in 100 years, but the
ideas that we have, these can change the world. They can live on. So I think, yes,
have skepticism. Also, allow optimism
and positivity into your heart in the most
basic and fundamental ways, the way that you
treat one another while you’re in
this environment. To express your gratitude
to work in a place where people make room for
meditation, where evidently, whilst this is still
an organization that has to make a profit and one of
the most powerful organizations in the world,
evidently, clearly there is an intention to
spread some benevolence, to spread some care. And you are powerful. You are the workforce. People listen. One of the great
misunderstandings of our time is that societies
function this way, that the people at
the top of the pyramid are the people that
have the power. But this is not true. This is an illusion. Power is here. Power is on this level. If, at any point, you
decide, hey, fuck this guy, let’s rush the stage and kill
him, what am I going to do? Joke my way out of it? I’m going to fucking negotiate. This is perennial. This exists for all time. The world is there
to be changed. Thank you for your question. Thank you for your time. CARLEY GRAHAM GARCIA: It’s
a good moment to end on. Thank you. [APPLAUSE]

100 thoughts on “Russell Brand & Bob Roth: “Meditation, Comedy, New Fatherhood, Recovery, and Life” | Talks at Google

  1. Notice the many times Russell centers himself… it's so funny… you can actually see him sensing his breath! 😛

  2. Wonderful – interesting that 'the heart' was not mentioned very much…. the core of all …. love.

  3. Russell has benefited from Transcendental Meditation. He is brilliant and funny, but more settled now…and bravo for quitting the drugs and alcohol. Not everyone can manage that!

  4. Good stuff, except for the lil big detail that the "trascendental" they indicate "under" but all that is "trascendental" is "higher" and then "above" not "below", thoughts, words, actions or anything that exist, as higher it vibes as higher it is, simple example: colors: "we" see from red til violet, anything under, is vibrating lower and is "infrared" waves, and in the other extreme is violet, anything above, is vibrating higher and is "ultraviolet" waves, wich is related to our chakras, but lets focus in the lil big detail that we are heading upwards. Blessings <3

  5. Russell is hilarious at times, but the notion that reality is relative is clearly false, so maybe not the strongest introduction in my estimate.

  6. I got confuse with something that bother me so much with the good thing that my culture is know lotus lady Chinese Buddha , in the history …she is the daughter of the king..she doesn't eat meat …she is into the church book , but she sacrifice her right arm for saving her dad from hell , in order to get her dad back from the hell. She become very big famous about being good daughter. Plus she said out loud that … in her life she won't step into the ………land unless she can safe the people from the pain…or something like that. Her name is guan im … so please explain…if u can

  7. I am from Thailand , and now I am 41 that is half way , but then I found out the truth of this world, not only my life, but my country as well , my life and my king no. 9 that we have such a long time , he just pass away. I know that my country make this huge story must be big and complicate for sure. Shock me about that.

  8. String theory from mr. Michio I know that. But with 3 people ( my friend one more , but now he already been kidnaps, disappeared no clue.

  9. I will tell u the techniques that better than close your eye and meditation, u just standing in front of the mirror… and try to think something …. so, tell me …the result after u spend time with the mirror… ok

  10. U re wrong if u think u need to kill the love that she has first , so she would go to the god? Or u think love make human blind till can not separate what is right what is wrong ? Everyone they know , but the reason why she goes on that side of her love lust., because some reason that trick her.

  11. Why if the re good people why they lie! U can check from the label of the bottle of the medicines, that dangerous, I don't want to point too much on that section

  12. Is the point of this over all is just to teach people about real life, that in this real world only the sharp and smart people would survive in the jungle ? Something like that?

  13. the Guy wth the beard near the end.. More exterior areana..awareness..UnITED COMMUNITY ESQU..ISH.. Sensational.. journey for ALL.. duties protect support positive Habitat. Love the Public areana journey Changes Better not bitter. terrific,keep in mind what he asks and suggests.

  14. dont ever pay for a TM course, you can find free or cheaper and more helpful meditation courses and teachers in most towns and cities.

  15. When Russell stops talking, you can see he's going over his narrative and analysing it. So, he doesn't focus on what others are saying.  He's so wrapped up in his own thoughts.

  16. Come on russell! Repeating a word, some mysterious indian river goddes with the mind is not silencing the mind. In addition if there was a method or technique then why are you or your TM friends not explaining that repeating a random word or focussing on senses will get you the same results. Still it wouldnt be you dissolving in that what is not in time and space. You know your not there yet, go beyond your knowledge about methods. Or am I wrong about TM being commercial bullshit. Educate people, not make them calmer, they will still not know how to fuckin live.

  17. meditation like so much in consumer culture is completely and utterly oversold – what we need in outsight so we can see what needs to be changed in the culture to bring about human thriving

  18. I LOVE you Russell Brand!! This man is so intelligent not to mention funny (oh, and GORGEOUS!!)…and his definition of addiction is spot on! The stigma of addiction is what prevents most addicts from seeking help in the first place. Finally the world is waking up to the fact that this is a worldwide crisis! This beautiful soul is helping so many people by speaking out and sharing his experience with the world. THANK YOU Russell…Please continue doing what you do…you are saving lives! 💗💗💗🙏🙏🙏💕💕💕

  19. Didn't think I'd say this about Brand but he is a hypocrite. He claims that we are rounded by consumerism and here the TM people are so much for profit. The head guy in India was a real prick thief and pervert and yet he is accepted by David Lynch and Roth.

    I say Roth fend off a camera man in movie documentary not wanted to be filmed about they cult and yet Brand supports these capitalists. They take down any other TM videos on youtube and garner  a monopoly. Hey Russell walk your talk.

  20. I love Russell , he talks too fast and my spanish brain try to cope with the river of information that comes through him… he is talking from the Unified Field for sure… tons of impressive and logic info.

  21. @22:30 Remove the arm please Bob. Russell looks uncomfortable there, give him some room. If he was more mindful, he'd be aware that russell didn't like his arm there 😉

  22. Brand is so clueless. His Hindu tattoos are such silly new-agey stuff at best but very insulting to the Hindu/Yoga religion.

  23. I love bob and russell so much…can you see how much russell lives and respects bob…he gets so animated and when bob wants to finish speaking and russell keeps interrupting…bob puts his hand on his back and keeps it there and he stays calm until bob is finished…its beautiful…wish i had a bob roth in my life…love you both so much

  24. I went to a TM meeting, because i'm facinated by russel. I was very dissapointed. Not only do they charge a small fortune for the course, but they also want you to bring a white cloth, fresh fruits and a coconut. The teather was very avoiding to answer questions. There is this mystiq around it but anyone can learn it. It does not make sense. The teather will help you find your "sound" which is unique to you!??? I believe now that TM is the Scientology of meditation and is fake.

  25. Connecting to love and creativity, taking you out of your body, so you don't feel lost. The analogy is a huge wave with you in a small boat. Finding inner creativity, we all have a huge potential right now, unbounded, transcendent, empowering, mind fullness to focus intention and find gama & mindfullness through science. Alpha 1. Be here now!

  26. 18:51 A CROSS SECTION, A HONEYCOMB OF CELLS, EACH CONTAINING A LARVAE….. You can see Russell thinking about the Emery Board… (For fans of his radio X show) 😉

  27. this girl wants to get ddddddddddddd down So bAD by Russell its completely inspiring hahahahaha iv never seen a girl so obviously horny and im too a recovered sex addict….

  28. wow Brand tellscRoth to answer he takes a breathe and Brand totally overrides him completely. brand rambles completely about everything. It doesn't make him seem intelligent although he thinks it does






  34. i want a settlement u murderous crooks – both camh and la, britain …i know its card and his kids clooney…amy ness went through way worse than famy ….how dare all of u deny this…u get me a settlement!!!! they r sickos who s et her up for years they set people up with no conscience about it ! and i got blamed roy! they r a sickos..u card! not her!!!! and so r your kids. amy ness has beena bused for far too long….stouffvile can deal with this tell them not to run.

  35. breathe dont let them throw u off centre, im not trying to grovel for fame, roy. u people treat me like dirt….who had a conversation? Becca my sex was not sick, im sorry is none of your business…. any of you… Toronto was so cruel.look at what happened…i cant be around any of you ,with this going on …sick people r tryiing to demroalize me and they dont even know me!. very smart woman why r u all so arrogant? if you people dotn know me u never will. not true aisnley you both are so arrogant, check your fuckging arrogance at the fuckgin door man…i dotn like being abused Toronto, im not pushy woman with people.

  36. Russel is amazing and has achieved the level of panna meditation where his wisdom cultivation is such in a high level state of consciousness. What the heart desires the levels of meditation will come. The other guy is nothing special but still needs more experience and less talk which is one of the rules of meditation.

  37. Addiction is one of the most curable of all diseases.
    Substitution of various triggers leads to gradual sobriety from addictive behaviour.
    This process worked for myself, maybe someone else can benefit with this mindset?
    Remember, do not beat one's self up when slipup happens, try again for a little longer to eventual success.
    "ya hafta deal with…"

  38. 15:13…………what . the fuck. Is with her moaning. I cant stand people like her. She doesn't get it. So fake.

  39. Russel, let others speak.
    You are not the center of the Universe as you appear to think you are…

  40. Russel, I have been observing you, initially curious bc it looked like you were extending yourself beyond your field of acting,

    Now, after many videos of yours, I am seeing you more as a contributor to the human growth than as an actor!

    Very nice.

  41. Man I wish I can understand Russel accent I find it hard a bit but I ensure he is spiritually enlightened enough to teach a lot

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